I'm not sure where the quote came from about killing the duramax. I watched all the launch videos for the 2025 Tahoe and the 2025 Yukon. They went out of their way to say how the newer version of the Duramax would be available in all of the trim levels including the off road versions. They had to redesign the front end to expand the cooling for the Duramax to make it available in those trim lines.
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petethepug
Michael
Sorry, that wasn’t insightful on my part to leave the link out. I do hope it’s not true because I do have my heart set on a diesel too.
www.autoevolution.com
The Beloved Duramax Engine Has Just Gotten Killed, What Will GM Use in Its Place?
General Motors has ditched the 3.0-liter inline-six Duramax turbo-diesel engine from the full-size SUV lineup starting this month
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WalleyeMikeIII
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Same link, 2 paragraphs later, says for 2025 and on the enhanced 3l Duramax is in it. The LM2 is phased out and replaced by the LZ0. Pays to read the whole article.Sorry, that wasn’t insightful on my part to leave the link out. I do hope it’s not true because I do have my heart set on a diesel too.
The Beloved Duramax Engine Has Just Gotten Killed, What Will GM Use in Its Place?
General Motors has ditched the 3.0-liter inline-six Duramax turbo-diesel engine from the full-size SUV lineup starting this month
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Hello,
I just purchased a Tahoe 'High Country'. Has most of the 'bells and whistles'. I like the 'auto' running boards. A lot of 'digital' electronic stuff that I haven't learned the half of it. I will admit though I am disappointed about some of the 'hype' they talked about is not really available unless you pay for a subscription to 'OnStar'. GPS may be 'Google' but you will have to pay for it. I use my phone so can still 'navigate'. The one 'accessory' I don't have is the 'Hands free' ability. I would not use it if I had it but if one does have that ability you won't be able to use it unless you have an OnStar subscription. I do have the camera that can read road sign speed limits but it can't do it without an OnStar subscription. I wonder what other 'nice-i-ties' I can't use without OnStar? But, all in all I am satisfied with this vehicle. I am traveling on an extended mileage trip and with this 6.2L engine I am getting as much as 24-25mpg's. Yeah, that is quite astounding.....to me. But, you do have to use 'Premium' gasoline.....anywhere from 50 to 70 cents more a gallon. I did see that one of the posts indicated the GMC version will give you 3 years of OnStar? so you can utilize the 'bells and whistles'??? I have a 2021 Canyon Denali and I can't say it's 'premium' status is all that wonderful.
I just purchased a Tahoe 'High Country'. Has most of the 'bells and whistles'. I like the 'auto' running boards. A lot of 'digital' electronic stuff that I haven't learned the half of it. I will admit though I am disappointed about some of the 'hype' they talked about is not really available unless you pay for a subscription to 'OnStar'. GPS may be 'Google' but you will have to pay for it. I use my phone so can still 'navigate'. The one 'accessory' I don't have is the 'Hands free' ability. I would not use it if I had it but if one does have that ability you won't be able to use it unless you have an OnStar subscription. I do have the camera that can read road sign speed limits but it can't do it without an OnStar subscription. I wonder what other 'nice-i-ties' I can't use without OnStar? But, all in all I am satisfied with this vehicle. I am traveling on an extended mileage trip and with this 6.2L engine I am getting as much as 24-25mpg's. Yeah, that is quite astounding.....to me. But, you do have to use 'Premium' gasoline.....anywhere from 50 to 70 cents more a gallon. I did see that one of the posts indicated the GMC version will give you 3 years of OnStar? so you can utilize the 'bells and whistles'??? I have a 2021 Canyon Denali and I can't say it's 'premium' status is all that wonderful.
WalleyeMikeIII
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You are correct, that to use the included onboard apps, you need an active data connection...If you have ATT, you can add your vehicle to your cell phone plan for something like $10/month. If not, you have to get the data via onstar (although some have reported you can turn your phone into a hotspot, connect your infotainment system to it via wifi, and get data that way, but it is clunky at best). The "app access" plan which will give your infotainment system apps life from OnStar is $14.99/month ($180/year). FWIW, the old DVD based navigation systems update disk was around $300 and it came out annually...so $180/year to have up to date Google maps is a relative bargain...but agree, you can use CarPlay/Android Auto to get many of the same features via those platforms.
FYI, the camera does not read road signs, the dash and HUD speed limit sign display takes its info from the Google Maps...so if you don't have the data active, it doesn't work. Turn it off in the cluster settings if you are annoyed at seeing it blank.
This is the new GM strategy, subscription services...but you are correct, in the GMC's and Caddy's, you get 3 years of these services included in your purchase...helps justify the higher price tag. Used buyers are SOL...sometimes OnStar gives some free trials for used car buyers...check the web site.
petethepug
Michael
Very happy I’m misinformed by not reading the entire article. Sorry about pulling everyone
into their click bait with me.
into their click bait with me.
BacDoc
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If you have IPhone or Android phone (not completely sure about Android as I have iPhone) you can get all the google mapping services through carplay without any excess charges. Carplay enables your infotainment system to do most of what your phone does. You can access google if you have the google app on phone. I just had the Data Gateway update done and had to re sign in to google. This can be done with out any subscription fee if your phone is Bluetooth connected through carplay.
I got GM WiFi connection which is $25/month but I think I got a discount for paying year subscription. It is pretty good IMO. If you use certain apps the WiFi connection is mostly better than cellular in my area.
I got GM WiFi connection which is $25/month but I think I got a discount for paying year subscription. It is pretty good IMO. If you use certain apps the WiFi connection is mostly better than cellular in my area.
Now this is only my opinion . Years ago a GM and a Chev were 2 different classes. And I find in some cases still stands with the options and trimmings. Also if you have the space get an XL. The hiway ride is 10 times smoother. Also make the dealer swap out the tires for Michelin Defender 2 and make sure there is a charge for them that way you paid for them and get the Michelin warr. And don't forget Road Force Balancing.
Good Luck
What is road force balancing?
WalleyeMikeIII
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Method for balancing tires, there are two ways.
one is the classic spin balance method (tire/wheel on a banancer, spin it, apply weights as directed by machine)
One takes this a step further and puts a load on the tire to simulate it as it is in use, then add weights to balance it out. Usually results in a smoother ride than just a spin balance.
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