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    When will 2022 orders turn into 2023 orders

    So we would start seeing 2023s being delivered in late August or September would be my guess?
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    How do I test drive

    I think this is why, despite manufacturers want to keep inventory lower, they will have to have some inventory on showroom floors because there are buyers that would prefer to buy a vehicle they have test driven than a vehicle they have not.
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    2024 Yukon Refresh Spied (warning- it’s not that exciting of an article!)

    https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/04/2024-cadillac-escalade-refresh-spied-testing-for-the-first-time/
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    Gas prices making anyone reconsider?

    In our area, it's a bit murky. The state may have suspended the gas sales tax but I'm not sure if the suspension expired. I think it amounted to about 35 cents a gallon.
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    I get the sense that, perhaps, you haven't moved on. But I'll give you the benefit of the doubt. Ford didn't produce the updated 2022 Ford Expedition until halfway in 2022 Q1 with deliveries starting in Q2 of 2022. I think it's not unusual to see sales of a previous generation/pre-update...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    I agree with most people here and think the GMC Yukon Denali XL looks the best. But looks are less of a priority for me than features, trailering, reliability, driving dynamics, and value. I'm hoping Toyota chooses to go with a long wheel base Sequioa and has a more comparable Lexus SUV so...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    For the Nth time?
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    Expedition vs Yukon

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    Expedition vs Yukon

    I've been "cancelled"! OH NO!!!! (He was clearly mad).
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    You sound mad. Are you mad?
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    I am not the only one on this forum recommending specific GM dealers for GMC products for those who can and are willing to wait. Real world being your NY metro centric world right?
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    There's always a "first time" for everything.
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    But wait... until you see this: https://www.realoem.com/bmw/enUS/showparts?id=3A93-USA-05-2014-F30-BMW-335i&diagId=51_4096
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    2022 Yukon Denali: Dealer Markup?

    And after that, you need the Shelby Bronco Raptor with a 200k mark up.
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    I did like the sliding center console. I wish it was compatible with a console vault as well so my other half could put her purse in that space and I have the option of securing my handgun when it's not convenient to carry (ie. going to the gym). The other option I have to look at is the space...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    So what are you implying? 1. You shouldn't compare alternatives on a forum dedicated to a specific product line. 2. You can't be critical of the aforementioned product line. 3. If you're comparing alternatives for a future purchase whether it be 6 months or three years down the road...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    You are getting tunnel vision. A couple weeks ago, I was posting more Ford Expedition review videos because they just started being delivered to dealerships. I'm always searching for more reviews for the Ford Expedition because it's still not clear to me what exactly is different about the...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    Another review of the Wagoneer L. I like this reviewers explanation of how the space can be utilized and I think she has one of the better focuses for families with small kids. Her critique of the Wagoneer L is fair and we've heard some of the parts people are critical of.
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    No doubt, like I said, the top end of that spectrum includes markups for whatever brand out there. I don't see the purpose of any of those vehicles. Maybe a quick flip if you can get one.
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    You would think, right? But even if that were true, for the vast majority of skill workers, the locality premium for a city almost never makes up for the true cost of living. Hence, that's why there's been an outflow of population from a city like NYC and a huge growth in population in lower...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    What does it mean? It's simply a suggestion - hence Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price. Not mandated, not enforced, not gospel - simply a suggestion. That's why you see everything from 6% under invoice pricing for a Stellantis product, 3% under invoice for Ford productions to obnoxious...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    I'm glad I was able to leave that area. Unless someone more than a mere mortal, there's a huge advantage to taking that DC, NY, LA, SF, etc. salary to a much lower cost of living area. Geographic arbitrage.
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    You're getting emotional and not thinking about what you're saying before typing and hitting post. You're using terms like "never", "no brainer", etc. without having data other than the closest dealership to you and one or two cherry picked articles. Just relax - it's the internet. There's...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    It's not "cheaper" because that's just MSRP. Again, MSRP doesn't matter for the retail customer. It's the actual market selling price. I'm not talking about "upgrading" trims. I'm talking about having two vehicles that are comparable in terms of "standard" features. Also, what do you...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    If you get a 2WD Escalade Luxury, MSRP is about $14k below a base Grand Wagoneer Series I which cannot be configured in 2WD form. But if you need a more common trim such as the 4WD Premium Luxury or 4WD Sport, the MSRP is over the MSRP of the GW Series 1. In that case, your actual market...
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