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    Could we put all the buying, receiving and ordering posts in a separate category?

    So a lot of the BMW/Bimmerpost forums have a sub-forum for Ordering / Pricing / Order Tracking and they usually have threads about constraints in there.
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    2024 Yukon Refresh Spied (warning- it’s not that exciting of an article!)

    https://gmauthority.com/blog/2022/04/refreshed-2024-chevy-tahoe-suburban-to-feature-new-roof-fin-antenna/
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    Stellantis isn't the only one with that strategy. Ford does it as well. There are quite a few forum dealers that will do anywhere from 2-5% below invoice pricing for Fords. Like Stellantis, Ford prices their vehicles with a higher MSRP. The actual market selling price is about equal to...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    That further proves my point. They don't make a practice of selling vehicles at a loss.
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    So there's a holdback amount which is usually dependent on the sales volume of the dealer. The holdback amount is probably why a dealer like Koons Vienna can advertise at 6% under invoice and still make a profit on each unit sold.
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    I've started to see more and more Wagoneers/Grand Wagoneers in the DC metro area as well as Toyota Tundras. At the end of the day, profit would be reflected closer to market selling price minus cost to produce per unit. Since I see Stellantis vehicles selling at a greater discount compared to...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    If you live in the tri-state area like I did, a lot changes within 25 miles. You will likely drive past a lot of shit holes on the way to and in NYC. Where I live now, you can cover 40 miles in 40 minutes on my commute during peak traffic hours. In the NY metro area, it could easily take you...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    I prefer the GM full size SUVs over Ford and Stellantis at the moment. But I'm certainly not a GM fanboi that can't realize the market is changing. If GM is leaving sales on the table and isn't stepping up production, someone else is going to. Then there's something wrong with that...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    Perhaps because you're only shopping in your local market and your local market dealers are charging over MSRP? I don't see any in inventory at Koons Vienna which is within 1.5 hours of me but they are the ones doing 6% under invoice. They even have a webpage on their site for you to submit...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    The extended length Wagoneer/Grand Wagoneer's towing capabilities are catching my eye. I don't really care about the 10,000 figure because each manufacturer plays games with that figure and Jeep is often more optimistic/aggressive in their ratings compared to Ford/GM. Rear axle weight rating...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    Your neighbor hood is great. But maybe there are some bad areas within 10-25 miles. For $1000/year liability only, I doubt I'd hold onto the car. I'd probably make the same decision you did.
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    Like GM, Stellantis will sell almost every Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer they have built. In fact, when you consider the Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer are completely new entries into this segment, it's pretty impressive. Once production ramps up and the long wheel base version is offered, you...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    That's calling winning. He lives in an area where not everyone drives like a complete clown and wrecks their car on a regular basis... Or gets their car stolen on a regular basis. I have full comprehensive insurance from USAA which tends to be more expensive than the other insurance companies...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    Hard to predict in 2023, but we can take a look at 2021 and 2022 numbers. For the Cadillac Escalade, these figures include both the standard and extended length wheel base for the entire calendar year. I haven't come across 2022 figures for GM yet. 2020 (pre update) - 24,500 units 2021 -...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    Also, you know that the work has been done correctly. The Cummins powertrain has been the most reliable powertrains for the HD diesel segment. That's because others just can't help themselves for a CP4 fuel pump fail.
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    It's a matter of perspectives. My last two cars were factory orders which took 3-6 months for delivery even when the market was a buyer's market. It's always a challenge figuring out what your needs are in the next 5 years but I don't want to "get caught with my pants down" and have to settle...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    But who isn't? I'd rather have a "barebones" Grand Wagoneer than a loaded Wagoneer. I'd rather have a "barebones" Yukon XL Denali than a loaded Suburban. It was the same for my BMW when I bought it. I'd rather have a bare bones 335i with all the functional performance options than a loaded...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    My expectation is that first model year vehicles always have issues to be worked out. I wouldn't buy a 1st year Toyota just like I wouldn't buy any other first year vehicle from any manufacturer. The difference becomes how long does it take manufacturers to work out the issues and improve...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    I wouldn't spent $80k on a Toyota. Then again I wouldn't spend $80k on a Tahoe or a Suburban. The only Chevy that's worth $80k is the Corvette in my opinion.
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    I've learned that that looks are subjective. The two tone color treatment of the Grand Wagoneer makes the vehicle look worse in my opinion. We should see pricing announced soon because they announced EPA fuel economy figures. The Wagoneer Series 1 4x4 is $62k invoice and $64k MSRP. If GM...
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    Another Wagoneer L and Grand Wagoneer L review.
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    Another Ford Expedition Max Limited Stealth Performance Package review showed up on Youtube.
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    Expedition vs Yukon

    A Wagoneer bites the dust.
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    '22 Denali shipped without Steering wheel lock and 4-way lumbar

    Maybe they will start shipping vehicles without engines or manual windows soon haha.
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    2022 Yukon Denali: Dealer Markup?

    https://www.cnbc.com/2022/03/25/russia-ukraine-war-laser-neon-shortage-threatens-semiconductor-industry.html

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