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Finally my a/c is blowing like I want. Over 3 months, more then 3400 hundred dollars I am happy! I went ahead and installed Envirosafe blend Inustrial/Advanced R134 replacement, VS Pro Dry and Air enhancer. Thou its currently only 78 degrees outside with 59% humidity the vent temp on the highway with the fan on high is 33 degrees F, on low its around 27 degrees. I know your gonna say im low but I installed about 4lbs so I dont think thats the case.

All I need now is a super hot day to make sure this thing cools. I want to thank everyone for there help and patients with my 400 questions!:)
 

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Yesterday I was sick of my OEM cycling switch constantly cutting out at 37F. I got a new aftermarket replacement and an adjustable (for a Ford I think) cycling switch.

Replacement was even worse, cut out at 42F. Put in the adjustable and tweaked it to cut out at 24F, but then I looked at the low side lines and they were solid ice frozen, and it was 99F ambient and at least 180 under the hood and still frozen. Bumped it back up to 30F for the cut out and it is nice now, no more cutting out on the freeway at 37 and back on at 42, now it just hangs at about 32F. Even when it is 105 outside, it blows so cold I get a headache.
 
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Yesterday I was sick of my OEM cycling switch constantly cutting out at 37F. I got a new aftermarket replacement and an adjustable (for a Ford I think) cycling switch.

Replacement was even worse, cut out at 42F. Put in the adjustable and tweaked it to cut out at 24F, but then I looked at the low side lines and they were solid ice frozen, and it was 99F ambient and at least 180 under the hood and still frozen. Bumped it back up to 30F for the cut out and it is nice now, no more cutting out on the freeway at 37 and back on at 42, now it just hangs at about 32F. Even when it is 105 outside, it blows so cold I get a headache.

WOW thats better then mine! Both shops told me these systems are supposed to cool between 30-35 below ambient which so so full of crap! My only concern is during this whole ordeal my a/c worked decent when the ambient temp was around 80, today not far off so I need a nice hot one to see where im at!
 

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Finally my a/c is blowing like I want. Over 3 months, more then 3400 hundred dollars I am happy! I went ahead and installed Envirosafe blend Inustrial/Advanced R134 replacement, VS Pro Dry and Air enhancer. Thou its currently only 78 degrees outside with 59% humidity the vent temp on the highway with the fan on high is 33 degrees F, on low its around 27 degrees. I know your gonna say im low but I installed about 4lbs so I dont think thats the case.

All I need now is a super hot day to make sure this thing cools. I want to thank everyone for there help and patients with my 400 questions!:)


4lbs.. WOW. sure that is enough with all the evaporators you installed under each seat, door panels and on each outlet not to mention all those booster fans. I think you are way to low on refrigerant. But if the rest of us can sleep calmly at night now I suppose that is a good thing.:sleepy10:
 
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4lbs.. WOW. sure that is enough with all the evaporators you installed under each seat, door panels and on each outlet not to mention all those booster fans. I think you are way to low on refrigerant. But if the rest of us can sleep calmly at night now I suppose that is a good thing.:sleepy10:

Hey funny guy! What up? Where you been all day??

Yeah 4lbs give or take......Three 1lbs cans, one 9oz can and a bit more of a 1lb can somewhere around 4lbs. I added a little refrigerant at a time, the temps kept dropping. I couldnt get a definitive answer as to how much it held. Everywhere I checked stated something differant.

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Hey funny guy! What up? Where you been all day??

Yeah 4lbs give or take......Three 1lbs cans, one 9oz can and a bit more of a 1lb can somewhere around 4lbs. I added a little refrigerant at a time, the temps kept dropping. I couldnt get a definitive answer as to how much it held. Everywhere I checked stated something differant.

Napa, Tech choice and handfull of others all say 4lbs, then a this morning I seen this :

A/C COMPRESSOR REFRIGERANT OIL CHECKING
1998 GENERAL SERVICING
General Motors Corp. - Compressor Refrigerant Oil Checking
Chevrolet, GMC, Oldsmobile, Pontiac: Trucks/Vans
* PLEASE READ THIS FIRST *
NOTE: Always refer to underhood A/C specification label in engine
compartment or A/C compressor label while servicing A/C
system. If engine compartment/compressor label specifications
differ from specifications in this article, use
underhood/compressor label specifications.
REFRIGERANT OIL & REFRIGERANT CAPACITY SPECIFICATIONS
NOTE: DO NOT exceed A/C system refrigerant oil capacity when
servicing system.
REFRIGERANT OIL & R-134a REFRIGERANT CAPACITY TABLE
(1) Oil Refrigerant
Application Ounces Ounces
"C" & "K" Series
Pickup & Sierra .............. 8.0 ................ 32.0
Crew Cab & Utility ........... 8.0 ................ 36.0
Suburban, Tahoe & Yukon
With Rear Unit ............. 11.0 ............... 64.0
Without Rear Unit ........... 8.0 ............... 36.0
(1) - Total system capacity, unless otherwise noted. Refer
to underhood A/C specification label in engine
compartment for specified oil type.
(2) - Refrigerant oil and/or refrigerant capacity not
available at time of publication. Refer to underhood
A/C specification label in engine compartment.
REFRIGERANT OILS
NOTE: Use ONLY the specified oil for the A/C system or compressor.
Always check the underhood A/C specification label or A/C
compressor label before adding refrigerant oil to A/C
compressor/system.
Use only NEW, moisture-free refrigerant oil in A/C systems.
Refrigerant oil is highly refined with a very low moisture content.
Oil container must be tightly closed when not in use, or moisture from
air will be absorbed into refrigerant oil.
Refrigerant R-134a systems use Polyalkylene Glycol (PAG)
refrigerant oil. Using a mineral oil based lubricant with R-134a
systems will result in A/C compressor failure due to lack of proper
lubrication.
All compressors have different lubrication requirements and
use different Polyalkylene Glycol (PAG) refrigerant oils. Use only the
specified PAG refrigerant oil for the appropriate system and A/C
compressor. Always check the underhood A/C specification label or A/C
compressor label before adding refrigerant oil to A/C
compressor/system. The following types of R-134a refrigerant oil are
currently available.
General Motors
On all models except Saturn, use PAG Refrigerant Oil (Part
No. 12345923). On Saturn, use Saturn PAG Refrigerant Oil.
NOTE: PAG oil absorbs moisture very rapidly, 2.3-5.6 percent by
weight as compared to a mineral oil absorption rate of .005
percent by weight.
SERVICING PRECAUTIONS
DISCHARGING SYSTEM
Discharge A/C system, using approved refrigerant
recovery/recycling equipment before loosening any fittings. Follow
refrigerant recovery/recycling equipment manufacturer’s instructions.
DISCONNECTING LINES & FITTINGS
After system is discharged, carefully clean area around all
fittings to be opened. Always use 2 wrenches when loosening or
tightening fittings. Some refrigerant lines are connected with a
spring-lock coupling. Special tools may be required to disconnect
lines. Cap all openings as soon as lines are removed. DO NOT remove
service valve caps until ready to connect lines and fittings.
NOTE: All R-134a based systems use 1/2-16 ACME threaded fittings.
Ensure all replacement parts match the connections of the
system being worked on.

Like I said in the other post I kept adding a little at a time and sure enought its 4lbs.
 

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I have been around. Getting pictures of cracked head up in a little bit. Love to see some pressure reading when you check it again.
 
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I have been around. Getting pictures of cracked head up in a little bit. Love to see some pressure reading when you check it again.


You cracked one? Or both? How did it happen?

I never cracked a head, warped the shit out of them one time when I didnt have my boost retard adjusted rite. A very expensive mistake.:emotions122:
 

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Discovered cracks on both heads near exhaust valves when I removed them becuase a head gasket blew out between two cylinders on right bank. Stock engine. But the engine had run hotter then before I flushed it out a few months ago. Ran much cooler afterwards but the clogging was there and done it damage. A water passage or two on each were not flowing because contaminated coolant was building up of junk in those holes although I could press right thru it with light finger pressure.
 
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Discovered cracks on both heads near exhaust valves when I removed them becuase a head gasket blew out between two cylinders on right bank. Stock engine. But the engine had run hotter then before I flushed it out a few months ago. Ran much cooler afterwards but the clogging was there and done it damage. A water passage or two on each were not flowing because contaminated coolant was building up of junk in those holes although I could press right thru it with light finger pressure.

That sucks! What you going to do? Gonna through a set of stock steels or you going all out?

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Im not expert but I would suggest having your lower intake manifold milled/decked whatever you want to call it. When the lower intake manifold gasket went the first time we didnt do it. After it went 15k miles later we knew something was up. They didnt remove much but enough to clean it up.
 

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