K2xx alternator upgrade on GMT800

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I sold my GMT800 Tahoe many months back, but I'm still into GMT800 trucks and have been for quite a long time. My wife's truck is a 2005 Suburban Z71 that is currently sitting at 245k. Original 5.3, clean as can be, oiled every year and washed regularly. Couple of Friday's ago, she leaves for work and comes back in "battery light is on in the truck". Sure enough another alternator failed. I've been though about every parts store alternator, new, reman, NAPA, Autozone, Advance, etc. on this truck. The recurring theme here is junk China alternators. Whether it's bad bearings, whining with RPM or just not charging... they all are garbage. Lifetime warranty is cool, but every 8-10 months is just annoying. And to top it all off, sometimes you're a bit constrained by parts availability to simply get the vehicle back on the road.

I wanted to get it fixed up and fixed quick. Called around to dealers and the OE GM alternator is still available, but with a $600 price tag. RockAuto lists the same alternator, but $280 plus tax/shipping. Plus, I would never get it in time. I ultimately did not want to go through another parts house alternator... so I started looking. It looked as if a K2xx truck alternator, while mounting on the passenger side, had the same mounting style. I ordered one off of Amazon for $220 and got it.

Sure enough, GM did not change the bolt hole spacing even with it being on the passenger side of the engine for the K2xx. Additionally, it seems as if all 2-pin GM alternators from 2004+ are the same pin and plug. It plugged right in. Only thing, you’ll just have to extend your alternator charging cable a few inches to reach the alternator terminal and enlarge the alternator side terminal one size with a step bit as the stud is 8mm vs 6mm. Also will need a M8 x 1.25 flange nut to bolt the cable on. Part number is 84143540, and the GM OE is made by Denso. It is a 170amp alternator vs. the OE 160amp.

The only introduced failure point would be the decoupler pulley but… eh? I would also imagine this will work fine on a GMT900.

I know I could've probably sourced a Mechman or other quality rebuilder/supplier, but the timeframe to receive would be too long and I bet the price isn't this cheap. Actually looking up the smallest Mechman is close to a $500 alternator with a couple week lead time. This truck is not powering massive audio equipment, nor doing anything crazy. It is just a driver. I am sure this Denso will go the distance. I've always been a fan of their electronic and ignition components on Hondas/Toyotas.

OE parts 9/10 times are the best. Here's some pictures. It does not look out of place. Charges great and makes ZERO noise. I am pleased. For the price of what'd you probably pay for a Duralast Gold, Carquest Premium, Orielly... etc. This is an OE alternator that will substitute just fine. Maybe this can help some of you out there. Worth noting, this will only apply to those of you with RVC equipped trucks/2-wire alternators.



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Glad that worked out. On the 02 2500 6.0, I had the original die. I got a new one from Amazon - put the year, model etc in, and it looks right. But.... the holes are about 1/2 inch further apart than the original, and the B+ Stud in the back is an M8 - bigger than the oirignal - and in a different location - about 1 inch closer to the center of the truck. I was doing good with the B+ lug, but the bolt spacing for the mount killed me. Now I have an Autozone rebuilt Bosch. gonna see how long he lasts.....
 

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Wow nice my alternator just died and about to order this one from amazon. Thanks for that info.
 
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Wow nice my alternator just died and about to order this one from amazon. Thanks for that info.
Post up how it goes for you! Been months now still doing great in the truck.
 

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Try *servicing the alternator*

I went over my pos oeg 253amp unit after it died and its been great I didnt even replace anything... But you can buy brushes and bearings...

Doing it over Id start with the nicer black PC OEM upgrade looking models. The A-PREMIUM one on scamazon looks pretty legit...

After youve got two good alternators and a spare rebuild kit on hand theres no such thing as a bad alternator, only stupid lazy parts changers who cant diagnose at the component level lol...

Bad bearing happens but more often than not the brushes are literally *bone dry* and they jam up... Thats your "chinese reliability issue" its the cheapest qc problem in the world

I mean oeg is an actual cheapo shop brand and like a premium is Chinese dorman dont buy ching-****-**** brand from alibaba with gift cards over snapchat or something but... Im not sure what the major issue is...

Skill issue

Do it herself ineptitude is expensive

"Home Owner" easy costs a premium i guess lol
 

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Try *servicing the alternator*

I went over my pos oeg 253amp unit after it died and its been great I didnt even replace anything... But you can buy brushes and bearings...

Doing it over Id start with the nicer black PC OEM upgrade looking models. The A-PREMIUM one on scamazon looks pretty legit...

After youve got two good alternators and a spare rebuild kit on hand theres no such thing as a bad alternator, only stupid lazy parts changers who cant diagnose at the component level lol...

Bad bearing happens but more often than not the brushes are literally *bone dry* and they jam up... Thats your "chinese reliability issue" its the cheapest qc problem in the world

I mean oeg is an actual cheapo shop brand and like a premium is Chinese dorman dont buy ching-****-**** brand from alibaba with gift cards over snapchat or something but... Im not sure what the major issue is...

Skill issue

Do it herself ineptitude is expensive

"Home Owner" easy costs a premium i guess lol
Thats where you hear "Paw Paw" say "stick a screw driver against the shaft in the back and whack it with a hammer" or "hit it with some wd40" (dont actually theres a blue can in the electrical supply for hvac motors thats best but)

Literally so many times its that

If its loud replace the bearings with something better

The windings should last forever lol
 

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If you can install a trunion kit, youve replaced the bearings in an alternator multiple times over more or less lol...

I mean at the point we are bragging about spending $600 for a stock 160a unit in there just so it isnt trash

Alternator isnt complicated

Windings aren't failing

For $600 you can set the ****** Xbox down and put some tools in your hands no?!?

$400 difference and you could have better windings?

Hell at $600 your getting past intro mechman prices and those are BUILT TO WORK ON...
 
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I sold my GMT800 Tahoe many months back, but I'm still into GMT800 trucks and have been for quite a long time. My wife's truck is a 2005 Suburban Z71 that is currently sitting at 245k. Original 5.3, clean as can be, oiled every year and washed regularly. Couple of Friday's ago, she leaves for work and comes back in "battery light is on in the truck". Sure enough another alternator failed. I've been though about every parts store alternator, new, reman, NAPA, Autozone, Advance, etc. on this truck. The recurring theme here is junk China alternators. Whether it's bad bearings, whining with RPM or just not charging... they all are garbage. Lifetime warranty is cool, but every 8-10 months is just annoying. And to top it all off, sometimes you're a bit constrained by parts availability to simply get the vehicle back on the road.

I wanted to get it fixed up and fixed quick. Called around to dealers and the OE GM alternator is still available, but with a $600 price tag. RockAuto lists the same alternator, but $280 plus tax/shipping. Plus, I would never get it in time. I ultimately did not want to go through another parts house alternator... so I started looking. It looked as if a K2xx truck alternator, while mounting on the passenger side, had the same mounting style. I ordered one off of Amazon for $220 and got it.

Sure enough, GM did not change the bolt hole spacing even with it being on the passenger side of the engine for the K2xx. Additionally, it seems as if all 2-pin GM alternators from 2004+ are the same pin and plug. It plugged right in. Only thing, you’ll just have to extend your alternator charging cable a few inches to reach the alternator terminal and enlarge the alternator side terminal one size with a step bit as the stud is 8mm vs 6mm. Also will need a M8 x 1.25 flange nut to bolt the cable on. Part number is 84143540, and the GM OE is made by Denso. It is a 170amp alternator vs. the OE 160amp.

The only introduced failure point would be the decoupler pulley but… eh? I would also imagine this will work fine on a GMT900.

I know I could've probably sourced a Mechman or other quality rebuilder/supplier, but the timeframe to receive would be too long and I bet the price isn't this cheap. Actually looking up the smallest Mechman is close to a $500 alternator with a couple week lead time. This truck is not powering massive audio equipment, nor doing anything crazy. It is just a driver. I am sure this Denso will go the distance. I've always been a fan of their electronic and ignition components on Hondas/Toyotas.

OE parts 9/10 times are the best. Here's some pictures. It does not look out of place. Charges great and makes ZERO noise. I am pleased. For the price of what'd you probably pay for a Duralast Gold, Carquest Premium, Orielly... etc. This is an OE alternator that will substitute just fine. Maybe this can help some of you out there. Worth noting, this will only apply to those of you with RVC equipped trucks/2-wire alternators.



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Did you stick with the original belt length?? Asking because I'm getting a terrible speaker whine through my rear pillar speakers. Have double checked my grounds and all look fine. The whine increases with RPMs so Im thinking it might be the Duralast alternator.
 
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Did you stick with the original belt length?? Asking because I'm getting a terrible speaker whine through my rear pillar speakers. Have double checked my grounds and all look fine. The whine increases with RPMs so Im thinking it might be the Duralast alternator.

Yes same belt length.
 

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