Yes we bought it brand new, we laid down a bunch of money, because "I" was under the impression that this was going to be a keeper and paid off, so we will come out ahead "kind of" I was thinking with and without. If I trade it in I am going to remove the lowering kit and Esky rack and sell that stuff on here. I do not have the original wheels for it because I sold them for a great price and bought 22" TBSS reps comp grey for the winter time. Those have not been installed so I can return them to my work for full price.