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I'm not any sort of ologist at this but damn it should help. Please feel free to add.

In our case GM has asked Bose to OEM speakers and components for their vehicles. Since it's about production there has to be a "productive" cost. This means trying to get the most out of the least.

What I'm getting at is the noticeable difference of replacing the stock speakers with aftermarket. Most of the time you notice that there isn't as much "bass" or a lack of that bottom end output (most of this is the underpowering but there is more to it).

Your typical aftermarket speaker is more complex than that of stock. A 3 way coax for example has all its little components built into it to divide frequencies. Your stock radio does just this, either at the source unit or the amplifier itself.

The Bose sytem is a sytem. Each component affiliates itself with one another to make it work according to design. The speaker sensitivity and frequency response are a couple factors. The Bose speaker is designed as a full range. It has to try to cover a larger bandwidth. With this comes a sacrifice. Does our driver perform better on the low end or do we make it perform better on the high end?

There is more but this is to start the discussion. Just remember that the Bose and any stock "system" is designed around itself. Crossover points and filtration especially. Thats why when you replace with aftermarket there are all kinds of silly things you notice. Aftermarket guys build there speakers to perform more towards midbass midrange under the assumption the product is being used among other aftermarket equipment. Which why you usually notice a cleaner and more throaty change but not really as much bass. Between the filtration from stock components already and then crossover components on the driver your ending up with a signal coming in being broken up by all that before its output.

Just some general info. Real brief too....lol
 

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but thats not to say a budget build with a map like....

StockHu + BoseAmp + New Proper (bose ohm) 6.5

or

StockHu + LOC + Amp + New 6.5s

wont still SMOKE a stock bose unit.. just dont expect it to be a THX experience
 

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Sounds about right.
General comment I have on the stock radio(s) I have heard in 1) My 07 yukon 2) 06 SRX and 3) 09 Avalanche, but, they all sounded similar (all non Bose) and, by similar, I mean not so great. Don't get me wrong, they aren't bad, but I find that a lot of stock units try to over compensate for things with a lot of low end notes. I find myself liking the sound the best with the EQ either flat or on "talk". In my previous suv (x5), it was a bit of a different problem with sound, and my Jetta before that was the last car I really pulled all the stock stuff and put in aftermarket. It was amazing how much better everything sounded running through a very nice Alpine headunit, amp, etc. I'd love to do the same thing in the Yukon, but all the integrated pieces that every car seems to come with these days, makes it cost considerably more.
 

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yea baron if you do an amp and speaker swap thats one reason why i say replace the stock woofers in the doors with co ax as opposed to just another woofer.. because the internal tuning range on the stock headunits are crap and when you start swapping stuff out having the extra tweets on the co ax help add (SOME of) the high end its missing, imo
 
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but thats not to say a budget build with a map like....

StockHu + BoseAmp + New Proper (bose ohm) 6.5

or

StockHu + LOC + Amp + New 6.5s

wont still SMOKE a stock bose unit.. just dont expect it to be a THX experience

Indeed.

Its just most of the time someone is buying speakers because the stock one sounds like shit or is blown. Not because the driver works with the sytem.

Really depends on what kind of LOC your using. Half the time people buy ones that you could just simply use the line level inputs of the amp for, if it has the feature. If it does it is far superior to that cheap POS commonly installed.

If you really want your stock HU invest in a nice LOC. The only real diversion is a nice one can cost close to the same as a new HU.
 
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Indeed.

Its just most of the time someone is buying speakers because the stock one sounds like shit or is blown. Not because the driver works with the sytem.

Really depends on what kind of LOC your using. Half the time people buy ones that you could just simply use the line level inputs of the amp for, if it has the feature. If it does it is far superior to that cheap POS commonly installed.

If you really want your stock HU invest in a nice LOC. The only real diversion is a nice one can cost close to the same as a new HU.

lol i say that like EVERY time someone wants to run an loc setup.. on the sub end you can skimp a lil.. but on the front end.. spent at least a bill dont expect a nice sound from a $20 loc.. its not gonna happen
 

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