2016 Tahoe Trans failure

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MBay Mobey

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Long time lurker, first timer poster. 2016 Tahoe LT, original owner.
I’ll start by saying I had my 2016 Tahoe serviced by the Dealer in January at the 95K mile mark since my battery died. The Service Dept performed the 100K mile scheduled service. After I picked up my Tahoe the transmission seemed healthy and shifted well. A few weeks later I noticed that the vehicle seemed to be “mis-firing” or slipping gears between 3rd and 4th. A friend of mine said i needed to perform the “transmission re-learn” step after replacing the battery, this was news to me. So I found the procedure on YouTube and followed the steps on the video. This did not correct the problem.
On my next 400 mile roadtrip to visit the grandkids I closely monitored the engine and transmission behavior. I noticed that the engine rpm’s would swing +/- 200 rpm while maintaining steady speed, even in cruise control. I took the vehicle back to the dealer and asked them to check the transmission out. The Service Mgr said the vehicle was not throwing any codes and the only thing they found was low primary fuel pump pressure. So for over $1K they replaced the primary fuel pump. I drove it to So Cal the next day and the vehicle was still behaving the same (mis-shifts, varying rpms). The transmission temp never got over 195 deg.
I called a few Transmission shops who seemed familiar with the 6L80 transmission problems. I described the symptoms and was told that my Torque Converter was likely failing. One very knowledgeable shop asked if I was getting the “washboard shudder”. I had not felt that yet, but he said that was indicative of TC failure.
I added a tube of “Lube Gard” to the transmission on my last trip to So Cal, and on the way home I definitely started to the feel the washboard/shudder. Had the Tahoe towed to the shop once I made it home. Made the choice to re-build my tranny instead of installing a “re-manufactured” unit. Billet Torque Converter, Sonnax Zip Kit, Borg Warner clutches, Superior STL010 Sure Cool valve, and other upgrades recommended by the shop, less than $4,500 out the door.
The Tahoe runs great now, shifts solid, and on my last trip through the Central Valley the transmission never got up to 150 deg, even though it was over 100 deg outside.
 

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Much the same with my son's 2017 Silverado. We thought he'd gotten a tank of bad ga and the engine was misfiring. New transmission and TC and a major "retune" of the ECM/TCM. Transmission shops are making a killing on these failures seems like.
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Oh no....... I posted this on July 18th rpms-jumping-when-driving and just seeing this post. Hmm, what just got me thinking was the "washboard shudder" statement. A few times I think I've experienced this, however I run mud tires so I tend to always her the washboard sound. Does the vehicle actually shudder or it makes the sound?
 
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‘’Washboard shudder” essentially feels like you’re driving on the warning strip on the side of the highway, the difference is if it’s caused by road conditions you’ll feel it in the steering wheel. If it’s caused by the Torque Converted slipping you’ll feel it mostly in your seat and less in the steering wheel. The longer you drive with this condition the more damage you’ll do to your transmission.
 

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The longer you drive with this condition the more damage you’ll do to your transmission.
The casualty is usually the front pump, tends to mangle the working surfaces and sometimes breaks the pump rotor. no movement is the result, if the condition didn't already happen due to the converter's stator failing.
 

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Thanks all for the information. I called my local shop and they recommended a transmission place up the road. I chatted with them and will take it in this week.
 

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The transmission shop confirmed the TC is going. I have the 6 speed so they recommended a new transmission. Quote is $5,500 for rebuilt trans and 3 year warranty. Is that on par?
 
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As I mentioned in original post, rebuild of my transmission was just under $4,500. The same shop quoted $4,500 flat fee for a “remanufactured” transmission. They keep about a dozen 6L80’s on the shelf due to the constant need. I had another shop quote me $7,500. I’d hate to have the Dealership quote it.
 

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The transmission shop confirmed the TC is going. I have the 6 speed so they recommended a new transmission. Quote is $5,500 for rebuilt trans and 3 year warranty. Is that on par?
What exactly are they doing to the transmission? What parts are replaced, what hydraulic correction kits used? What will be done with the pump and 3-5-R drum?

Upgradsd torque converter (upgraded = .070 thick borg warner high energy TCC vs woven style .022 POS)?

For that quote to have any meaning, we need to know what you're getting in return...

See my 6L80 Info Thread (link is in my sig line) for a full breakdown of what you should be getting for a proper overhaul...let me know if you need more info.
 

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