Paint - Ceramic Coating - Question??

5StarCustmSolutns · Oct 2, 2024

j91z28d1 said:
sounds like a very bad idea. I cermic coated my c6 after tons of polishing. I don't believe cermic would stick to a roughed up paint at all, and it comes off pretty easily if it's not in a very well corrected surface. I cermic coated a polished smooth polycarbonate top and it didn't hold up at all in the sun. I'll have to repolish and install some ppf.

your best bet for a Matt finish would he matt ppf install. I've seen that done over white and it turns out very nice, plus protects the paint for 10 years. if you can wet sand and buff, you can't install ppf. Just watch some YouTube videos and buy some ext

forgive my ignorance... what is ppf??

edit: Nevermind, that was lazy of me lol.. Paint Protection Film! And it's available in Matte too! This has potential?!?!

5StarCustmSolutns · Oct 2, 2024

5StarCustmSolutns said:
"Allegedly" the ceramic coatings that claim to be for a Flat Matte or Satin finish follow those rough surface contours?

If so, I would think that Ceramic Matte coatings share some similar properties with Gloss Clear Blenders. Which I cant begin to explain on scientific level. Just know that they use some type chemical which, on molecular level, melts the surface of the existing gloss clear, allows it to accept the new clear, and re-levels together as one smooth surface.

If Matte Ceramics coatings truly do this, then they would have to either absorb into the surface or be thin yet sticky enough to coat the peaks and valleys and stick to them long enough to harden? If that makes any sense??

5StarCustmSolutns · Oct 2, 2024

Coveman said:
I cant imagine what it felt like to see your hood paint fly off like that, at least its a relatively easy panel to paint. Reminds me of the paint problems of the 80’s, if it didnt come off in chunks it just kinda dissolved on the horizontal surfaces.

You have a great looking rig, I like the plain white it looks cool without cooking you in the summertime. Whatever you wind up doing good luck!

Yeah, I just stopped and started at it for a good 20sec... Then went in close and blasted off all that would come off. It's currently got a piece of white vinyl wrap over it. Not sure how I'm gonna remedy yet? Thinking either: salvage yard hood swap? -or- Sand and paint? But white again? or paint hood and roof flat black to match all the plastic panels and bed covers on top surface of the back end??

A few years ago I filled in all the open cavities on the underside of the hood with closed cell foam and Raptor lined the entire bottom surface for sound and surface protection. Swapping out hoods would mean I'd have to do that over again, adding 5-6hrs to the 5-6hrs of going to get one and the ___(however many) hours to get it on straight

I think I'm leaning towards the flat black option? I put my 3mo of planning into motion yesterday by ordering long(er) travel control arms and several other parts that should increase off-road capabilities... (honestly, it should completely transform the truck but Im trying temper expectations)

Heres a pic I found months ago when trying to see how my Av might look with LT suspension. This guy went with a compete fiberglass front end swap(fenders and grill). This front end is technically designed for the Silverado but I don't know how anyone will ever notice that with all the other eye candy he's got goin on lol

Reb03lb7 · Oct 27, 2024

5StarCustmSolutns said:
Thanks for asking somebody in the industry! And that's exactly what I asked the tech guys at the ceramic coating companies. Some claim that their polymer based Matte finish formula will more "follow" the microscopic contours, those little peaks and valleys, and harden over top, in their shape; vs filling them in and making the surface smooth again....

If you get the chance, please ask him if he thinks that's possible?

Asking those questions took place over a couple year period. I should've written down which companies I talked to and their replies, but it was just an thought at first, a curiousity... Only after receiving a couple "that could work" answers has it grown into a post worthy question lol

not how that works, at all

matte finish simply diffuses light instead of reflecting it. there are no peaks and valleys

again, just get a matte PPF wrap - do not wreck a factory paint job trying this

5StarCustmSolutns · Nov 24, 2024

Reb03lb7 said:
not how that works, at all

matte finish simply diffuses light instead of reflecting it. there are no peaks and valleys

again, just get a matte PPF wrap - do not wreck a factory paint job trying this

Hey sorry delay... Im not sure what you're referring to that doesn't work that way?

If you mean flat and matte finishes? They diffuse light by way of their imperfect irregular top, or surface, layer. On a micro level.... -vs- Gloss finish under magnification much more resembles a solid smooth surface, reflects more light, gives it the shine, etc etc

petethepug · 2024-12-26T19:06:18-0500

My buddy’s 13 3500 white hood lost a couple of quarter size paint pieces on his white hood this year. He wrapped the hood with an eagle logo.

Spent $800 to have my shop take the clear down to paint on our 08 YXL black hood that was peeling. The respray of the new clear got the remaining clear to start peeling too. The entire hood had to be totally stripped again, painted & cleared.

After the shop perfected the technique to respray the peeling clear, they respray’d the sunroof area visible from head on for $500. The rest of the truck was color sanded and buffed out for $800.

The resto pro’s were amazed at how thin the paint and clear was on a factory paint job. They said it would eventually need a total respray because GM did not use enough product.

I had the option to respray the entire truck black, wrap it, restore it or part with it. The option I chose was resto & sell only because I discovered GM’s Gen 3 metallic paint last longer, Esky Platinum dashes don’t crack & 09 6.2L don’t have AFM and drink alcohol. It was better in the long run to switch from an 08 Denali to an 09 Esky.

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