In full disclosure, seats look amazing! Like I said previously, seats are cleaned with leather cleaner and conditioner. But realistically, we have 5 kids under 4 and crumbs happen. Lol I keep up with them really well, but our kids make a mess and have to shop vac pretty regularly. The seats themselves are super clean, around the base is hard to get every single crumb, so they may have dirt. If you’re serious about swap I’ll pull seats awhile and try and clean the bases pretty good. Just let me know if you’re still interested!