2025 Diesel orders opened

[DuraYuk]

The same or more. they crank out about 450 Thousand vehicles annually out of spartanburg plant alone.

Thats crazy because their US sales isn't close to what GM does in US alone.

2024 (Full Year) USA: BMW and Mini US Car Sales by Model - Car Sales Statistics

In full-year 2024, the BMW Group had a second consecutive year of record sales in the USA but Mini car sales in the US were lower.

www.best-selling-cars.com

Most automakers close 2024 on a high note

Ford, GM report record-setting marks for electric vehicles sold, while Stellantis falters.

www.automotivedive.com

Comparing the full size bmw x7 hardly any sales compared to what the gm full sizes bring.

2024 BMW X7 Sales Figures

BMW X7 monthly, quarterly, and yearly sales and statistics in the United States. Including data and interactive charts for the latest model year 2024 and crossover/suvs segment.

carfigures.com

The escalade alone outsells the bmw

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2025/02/cadillac-escalade-sales-numbers-figures-results-fourth-quarter-2024-q4/

I guess what im saying is the reason it's hard is because demand is high and they sell them as soon as they drop.

 

[rpflinton]

Thats crazy because their US sales isn't close to what GM does in US alone.

2024 (Full Year) USA: BMW and Mini US Car Sales by Model - Car Sales Statistics

In full-year 2024, the BMW Group had a second consecutive year of record sales in the USA but Mini car sales in the US were lower.

www.best-selling-cars.com

Most automakers close 2024 on a high note

Ford, GM report record-setting marks for electric vehicles sold, while Stellantis falters.

www.automotivedive.com

Comparing the full size bmw x7 hardly any sales compared to what the gm full sizes bring.

2024 BMW X7 Sales Figures

BMW X7 monthly, quarterly, and yearly sales and statistics in the United States. Including data and interactive charts for the latest model year 2024 and crossover/suvs segment.

carfigures.com

The escalade alone outsells the bmw

https://gmauthority.com/blog/2025/02/cadillac-escalade-sales-numbers-figures-results-fourth-quarter-2024-q4/

I guess what im saying is the reason it's hard is because demand is high and they sell them as soon as they drop.

Why wouldn't GM make custom orders first? No constraints or restrictions. Get them out on the road!
That would drive demand more than sitting at a dealer, IMO.

I very rarely see 2025 models on the road in OKC.

 

[Tinbadtin]

Bmw doesnt sell nearly the volume GM does.
And if you go to multiple dealers and place multiple orders and bounce around you are not exactly helping matters.

Are you really being apologetic for GMs archaic processes and mostly bottom of the barrel dealer network?

GM in 2024 sold 2.7 million vehicles vs. BMW 2.5 million - is that not comparable? And the average MSRP may not be that far off considering how much downmarket BmW has come and how high the MSRPs of these GM SUVs have gone… It may not be apples to apples but I’d say they are pretty comparable in many ways, not just by units sold.

The reason I had to go to 5 different dealers is the first 3 wouldn’t even consider placing an order and were only interested in pushing lot inventory. Don’t get me wrong, all dealerships have some sort of scumminess to them but the lack of professionalism and service I’ve received from GM and their dealers in recent years is just another level. How is it possible in 2025 there’s still no straight forward way to check status of an order online??

One doesn’t have to step up to BMW to have a better experience: CDJR/Stelantis has had a straight forward, online order tracking for years. It’s just too bad their product is s**t.

 

[DuraYuk]

Are you really being apologetic for GMs archaic processes and mostly bottom of the barrel dealer network?

GM in 2024 sold 2.7 million vehicles vs. BMW 2.5 million - is that not comparable? And the average MSRP may not be that far off considering how much downmarket BmW has come and how high the MSRPs of these GM SUVs have gone… It may not be apples to apples but I’d say they are pretty comparable in many ways, not just by units sold.

The reason I had to go to 5 different dealers is the first 3 wouldn’t even consider placing an order and were only interested in pushing lot inventory. Don’t get me wrong, all dealerships have some sort of scumminess to them but the lack of professionalism and service I’ve received from GM and their dealers in recent years is just another level. How is it possible in 2025 there’s still no straight forward way to check status of an order online??

One doesn’t have to step up to BMW to have a better experience: CDJR/Stelantis has had a straight forward, online order tracking for years. It’s just too bad their product is s**t.

Us sales. We are talking US here.

 

[DuraYuk]

Why wouldn't GM make custom orders first? No constraints or restrictions. Get them out on the road!
That would drive demand more than sitting at a dealer, IMO.

I very rarely see 2025 models on the road in OKC.

Because they want you go buy what's there. Most imports in the states don't even do orders..i wouldn't be surprised if you see orders vanish unless it's for special models and vehicles.

 

[Stbentoak]

I had a friend that 2 years ago order a new Toyota Hylander Hybrid. 11 months later the dealer didn't know where it was or still when it was coming from Japan. This was a large Phoenix dealer. Not all brands have their stuff together.....Cancelled it and bought a new Ford Edge the same day. Happy ever after....

 

[JayceeP]

Yeah I can’t say I’ve factory ordered a ton… only 2 F150s and our Yukon last year in Feb 2024. Had the Yukon in the driveway 2 months after we ordered and I’m in Nova Scotia 2,000 miles away from Arlington lol.

At the same time I inquired with Toyota about the Sequoia and I was told maybe 12-18 months…. And I thought waiting 7 months for my factory order F150 Lariat in the 2021 chip shortage was bad! Clearly Toyota hasn’t figured that out, or they have different priorities on how they get vehicles to customers. I will add, they have far fewer options within each trim level so I suppose the desire to custom order is probably less?

 

[Axialflow]

Guess we'll see what happens this Thursday that's when allotment up here gets awarded. Last week there was allotment but there was a constraint on a item in the build and my build is very simple as I'm trying to avoid hold ups. You can buy a house quicker then this

 

[StephenPT]

Has anyone received an allocation / Build on a 2025 GMC Yukon XL Denali Ultimate 3.0L LZ0? I have been in line for one since production start here in North West Central Minnesota with no word on a allocation yet from dealer. Still being patient, just being curious of others.

FWIW - It looks like they're now building Denali Ultimates - a quick search shows about 7 of them in transit as of today.

 

[Stbentoak]

Yes.... 7 ultimate diesels (.001%) out of 3750 available Yukon's. Only 177 diesels in total of all trim levels...Less than 5%....