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the big blue bus

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i did everything like the article said and i got nothing. lights still act on there own not together on high. i used the side by side wire connectors. i tried switching wires and fuse and still nothing. how do i know if relays bad? i thought it would be a simple mod gues not lol. could my problem be where the wires conect to the stock wires? wasnt quite sure on how those things workd or if i did it right. any help would be appreciated

used this as ref. http://www.fullsizechevy.com/showth...adlight-Mod-EXPLAINED&highlight=headlight+mod
 

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Did you get this working yet?
For the four-hi mod to work, you need a diode. Have the silver band point to the lows.
We really need to see that article to help you further though. I too can't see the other article. I've been meaning to subscribe, but have never gotten around to it. Maybe you could post up the instructions?
 
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1. Mount A Relay On The Inside Fenderwall By The Battery
2. Run a wire (Green) from #87 to the low beam wire
3. Run a wire (Black) from #85 to a good ground with a self tapping screw or a straight to the negative battery terminal
4. Run a wire (White) from #86 to the high beam wire
5. Run a wire (yellow) from #30 to the + side of the battery with an inline fuse.
6. Tape up your connections and zip tie the wires.. test it out first though.

This works to cover the headlights on 88-98 OBS trucks.

The Relay just needs to be a 30 Amp Relay...

The wires are very easy to find since the only two wires running to the low bulb and high bulbs..... and the black is ground so you just need to know that the low beem is on the out side and the highs are on the inside of the grille.

I also put a simple two prong switch in so i can turn it off if i would ever need to for some reason....




i never got it working. tried 2 dif relays and stuff. its bothering me lol. whats a diode? i really want this to work
 
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ok coles, if you have the low and hi hid's, the 4 hi is super simple. i went to radio shack and got the biggest diode they had, unsure of exactly which one i needed. a diode is like a 1-way switch for electricity. electricity can flow one way, but not the other. (if you ridiculously overdrive the diode the wrong way, it can drive through, but installed correctly, it's one way.) anyhow, i just ran a diode between the #85's on my relays, from the high beam relay to the low beam relay. on the diode it'll have a silver or gray mark or band on one end of the relay. make sure the gray band is facing TOWARD the #85 on the low beam relay. i soldered some wire to the diode, like this.
----====(diode)====----
i then heat shrink tubed the relay and wire connections, took the opposite ends of the wires, stripped them back, pulled the relay connector off of the relay, and stuck the stripped wire into the female adaptor of the relays and reinstalled the relays. if you have the ddm hid's, the 85 is the blue wire. what it does is allow electricity to "trigger" the relay for the low beams when the high beams are on, but does not allow electricity to backfeed from the low beam relay trigger wire (blue, or #85) over to the high beam relay. what took the longest was soldering the wires together. i know that just jamming wire into the relay connection isn't exactly the most professional way to do it, but i didn't feel like stringing out an extension cord and trying to solder the wires the proper way. i'm also not the best at soldering stuff. anyhow, works like a champ. now my lows are on when low is selected, and all 4 are on when the highs are on. so the 25 cent explanation of a diode is a one-way gate/switch/valve, however you wanna look at it for electricity. now this is for having 2 relays, one for the low beam hid's and one for the high beam hid's. if you don't have the hid highs and lows, then it'll be a little different. but if you have the 2 relays, it's an easy gig, probably took me all of an hour or so to figure out which wires were which on the relays, solder some extra wire on the ends of the diode, and install it. and if you weren't totally sure how the relays work, you have power from the battery going to the relay, and power that will be leaving the relay once the relay is "triggered." the "trigger" wire is the wire that comes from your headlights when the switch is turned on, and closes a switch inside the relay when powered. the relay then allows power to flow through the relay, until the switch is turned off, at which point the relay de-energizes, and stops the flow of power through the relay's internal switch. relays are typically used to allow a small amount of power to close a switch and supply a larger amount of power. such is the case with the headlights. the relay trigger is not a very large amount of power in relation to the amount of power that the headlights use. another use of a relay is like in your home a/c thermostat. many home thermostats use a 24v signal to trigger a relay that supplies 110/220v to the a/c unit. sorry for the rambling, but that's the 50 cent electricity lesson for the day. hope it helps out. branndon.
 
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im only going to do hids on the lows... and so if i get the diode in it should work? never seen it mention on other how to... and thanks for the reply man
 

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yeah, the diode should work from the #85 (or trigger wire) from the low beam relay to the switched power wire going to the high beams. that way when the high beams are on, power goes through the diode to the trigger wire on the low beam relay and keeps the low beams on while the high beams are on. just remember like in my previous post that the diode is directional, so the silver band on the diode should point to the low beam trigger wire on the relay.

---------- Post added at 07:54 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:53 PM ----------

so if the high beams are kinda on when the low beams are on, the diode is backwards.
 

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1. Mount A Relay On The Inside Fenderwall By The Battery
2. Run a wire (Green) from #87 to the low beam wire
3. Run a wire (Black) from #85 to a good ground with a self tapping screw or a straight to the negative battery terminal
4. Run a wire (White) from #86 to the high beam wire
5. Run a wire (yellow) from #30 to the + side of the battery with an inline fuse.
6. Tape up your connections and zip tie the wires.. test it out first though.
...I also put a simple two prong switch in so i can turn it off if i would ever need to for some reason....

Actually, these are good instructions. They point to another method of wiring up a 4-hi mod that does the job, uses a relay to avoid voltage drop(HID flicker) and doesn't require a diode. In fact this method may be easier than how I did mine, because it requires less parts. By itself those instructions will work, no diode required.

So now, and I hate to say it, but the only deviation from the instructions was a switch that was wired into the dash? So, how did you wire up the switch? Where did you run the wires of the switch to? What ahppens if you remove the ends of the switch wires to bring the wiring back so that it matches the instructions, does it work then?
 

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99yuk, i would imagine he had put the switch under the hood like a valet switch or something that would disable the 4 hi on the switched leg of the relay. just my guess.
 

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