Best brake upgrades

Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

HiHoeSilver

Away!
Joined
Feb 28, 2017
Posts
10,918
Reaction score
14,571
Location
Chicago
I appreciate that you think I am that knowledgeable, but I have no frickin clue if that's true or even know what half of what you said is. I'll take your word that both work as long as the pads match the calipers. (That was something I have not read in any of the NNBS brake upgrade threads). I have to search more, but I think I can find the specs on the pad size and see if there is any difference

If you go look up calipers for the 2007 (and maybe 2008?), it will ask you which casting number for the caliper. As stated earlier, it had something to do with a retaining clip or something. I'm not sure we ever came up with a definitive answer. In my sourcing, I chose to use 2013 as for part numbers to avoid that whole pile.
 

CountryBoy19

Full Access Member
Joined
Jun 8, 2018
Posts
260
Reaction score
147
Location
Southern Indiana
If you go look up calipers for the 2007 (and maybe 2008?), it will ask you which casting number for the caliper. As stated earlier, it had something to do with a retaining clip or something. I'm not sure we ever came up with a definitive answer. In my sourcing, I chose to use 2013 as for part numbers to avoid that whole pile.
From my understanding, 2013 style is one of the casting number options it's asking you when looking at 07/08. According to the chart adriver posted that would be the calipers that use the 1363 pad.

According to 2005 GMC Sierra 1500 on rockauto, both the 1092 pad (and matching calipers) and the 1363 pad (and matching calipers) were used on the 2005 w/ rear drums, in addition to the brakes that were used for those with rear-discs. What a fluster-cluck for guys trying to replace their brakes. 3 different front pad/caliper combinations used on OE Sierra 1500 brakes.

w/ rear disc brakes used 785 pad
w/ rear drum, w/ hydroboost used 1363
w/ rear drum, w/ vacuum booster used 1092

according to what I could find on rockauto by piecing together "bread-crumbs" left in the applications information for multiple pads. Some of them don't differentiate at all... one thing is for sure, if replacing brakes on these you BETTER know what brakes you actually have before ordering the parts or you'll be very disappointed.

I have hydroboost on my yukon so if there is some sort of "mismatch" that doesn't mix well with hydroboost and 1092 pad-style brakes then I lucked out and ordered the right ones.
 

HiHoeSilver

Away!
Joined
Feb 28, 2017
Posts
10,918
Reaction score
14,571
Location
Chicago
From my understanding, 2013 style is one of the casting number options it's asking you when looking at 07/08. According to the chart adriver posted that would be the calipers that use the 1363 pad.

According to 2005 GMC Sierra 1500 on rockauto, both the 1092 pad (and matching calipers) and the 1363 pad (and matching calipers) were used on the 2005 w/ rear drums, in addition to the brakes that were used for those with rear-discs. What a fluster-cluck for guys trying to replace their brakes. 3 different front pad/caliper combinations used on OE Sierra 1500 brakes.

w/ rear disc brakes used 785 pad
w/ rear drum, w/ hydroboost used 1363
w/ rear drum, w/ vacuum booster used 1092

according to what I could find on rockauto by piecing together "bread-crumbs" left in the applications information for multiple pads. Some of them don't differentiate at all... one thing is for sure, if replacing brakes on these you BETTER know what brakes you actually have before ordering the parts or you'll be very disappointed.

I have hydroboost on my yukon so if there is some sort of "mismatch" that doesn't mix well with hydroboost and 1092 pad-style brakes then I lucked out and ordered the right ones.

Yeah, it's a head spinner for sure.
 

bottomline2000

Full Access Member
Joined
Oct 21, 2009
Posts
1,722
Reaction score
988
Location
Dallas, TX
I think they all use the same front pad. 1363.. Thats what I have on my 2012 escalade calipers.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T377A using Tapatalk
 

CountryBoy19

Full Access Member
Joined
Jun 8, 2018
Posts
260
Reaction score
147
Location
Southern Indiana
I think they all use the same front pad. 1363.. Thats what I have on my 2012 escalade calipers.

Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-T377A using Tapatalk
If by "they all" you mean 1500s after 2008 I think you may be right but prior to that it was all over the map... it's like gm engineers just picked the flavor of the day on brakes...
 

adriver

Full Access Member
Joined
Aug 18, 2018
Posts
782
Reaction score
466
Rockauto has the 1363 with Front; Cal Bracket Cast # 351C/352C &
Rockuato has the 1092 with Front; Cal Bracket Cast # 285C/286C


JF3 11874 P BRK M BRAKE VAC POWER, 17" DISC/DRUM, W/ABS, 7,000 LBS
JF7 11878 P BRK M BRAKE VAC POWER, 17" DISC/DRUM, W/ABS, 6,400 LBS


https://www.rockauto.com/en/moreinfo.php?pk=2043046&cc=1432418&jsn=10701
(Centric 14166052) Shows the Casting difference (for 351C)

Brake caliper.PNG





Here on the pad, you can see how it mounts is different.

1092 pad

Centric pad 10210920.PNG




1363 pad

Centric pad  10213630.PNG
 

swathdiver

Full Access Member
Joined
May 18, 2017
Posts
19,582
Reaction score
26,265
Location
Treasure Coast, Florida
As described to me by a Raybestos engineer, the only difference going from those earlier brakes to the later brakes (at least in the Raybestos products) is that the drag-reduction springs for one version was a separate spring and the drag reduction spring in the others is part of the stainless slide clips that are replaceable (are those the abutment clips?).

Have both styles on the front of mine and picked up about a 1/4 mpg more. How are the brakes doing now, 18 months later?
 

Forum statistics

Threads
132,150
Posts
1,863,155
Members
96,651
Latest member
bigtoe
Top