Can you help me troubleshoot my A/C?

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Hey guys,

A/C started blowing hot air. Added a can of R134a (w/oil & system safe sealer). It (then) worked well for a week or two. Now the compressor hardly kicks on (even though psi is correct). It kicks on for a second, then stops. System doesn't seem to be leaking refrigerant anymore, just the compressor issue. I disco'd the battery (to reset everything) and checked fuses. I'm thinking it's either the compressor (is bad), or the control unit (in the dash) is bad.

Has anyone been through this already? Any helpful info?

Thanks!
 
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if the comp kicks on for a sec and back off usually indicates of a undercharged system. It could still be leaking just maybe in a different place. Can you post up what the psi are? with engine off and running?
 
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if the comp kicks on for a sec and back off usually indicates of a undercharged system. It could still be leaking just maybe in a different place. Can you post up what the psi are? with engine off and running?

I went out to check, and I was at 40psi (low side) with the engine off and with the engine on (A/C on both max, and 74* - Auto).

You gave me the perfect response though. Knowing that, I bumped it up to 45psi and the compressor started kicking on more frequently.

I dumped a bunch of refrigerant (on purpose) yesterday, because it was somewhere around 100psi (with the compressor off).

What I really need to know is: What is the correct psi for our trucks (with rear A/C)?

Thanks for your quick response Sumo! I appreciate that.
 

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Np. there should be a ac sticker under the hood somewhere that will tell you the info your looking for. Its usually a silver and blue sticker that tells you how much refrigerant
 

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Its in the owners manual but I think it is 2.7 lbs for a Tahoe/Yukon.

If you have to add more than a can you have a pretty good leak. Are you adding dye to help diagnose the leak? I know you said it has sealer but does it have dye? Check to make sure the schrader valves aren't leaking when yo are done. They are famous for leaking after being hooked up yo gauges.
 

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I went out to check, and I was at 40psi (low side) with the engine off and with the engine on (A/C on both max, and 74* - Auto).

You gave me the perfect response though. Knowing that, I bumped it up to 45psi and the compressor started kicking on more frequently.

I dumped a bunch of refrigerant (on purpose) yesterday, because it was somewhere around 100psi (with the compressor off).

What I really need to know is: What is the correct psi for our trucks (with rear A/C)?

Thanks for your quick response Sumo! I appreciate that.

Yea it is triggering the low psi switch. Usually anything below 20 psi with the compressor turning will trigger it. 40 psi is way to low with the engine off. The psi neutralizes between high and low with the engine off (compressor not turning). When the manual says 2.7 pounds it does you no good unless the system is completely empty. Your psi will very depending on the temp outside. You can google generic charts to see what pressure you should need but with the truck running and the compressor on usually 35 to 40 psi on the low side is good. Your high side should be way up there like prob around 200 with the compressor turning (just throwing a rough number out there look at the charts) The Question is where did the it go to began with. If yo want to trouble shoot yourself I would put a can of coolant with leak detect. That way you can get a cheap small black light when it is dark outside to look for a glow on the ac system for a leak. A/c work sucks! It is really not too hard but sometimes leaks can be very very hard to find.
 
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Np. there should be a ac sticker under the hood somewhere that will tell you the info your looking for. Its usually a silver and blue sticker that tells you how much refrigerant

Unfortunately, the sticker is absent. Either way, you helped me a ton. Great idea! Thanks again. Because of your low pressure comment, I was able to figure the rest out myself, and I got it blowing cold again, in under 30 mins. All I needed was your comment. ;) Totally appreciated my friend.


Its in the owners manual but I think it is 2.7 lbs for a Tahoe/Yukon.

If you have to add more than a can you have a pretty good leak. Are you adding dye to help diagnose the leak? I know you said it has sealer but does it have dye? Check to make sure the schrader valves aren't leaking when yo are done. They are famous for leaking after being hooked up yo gauges.

2.7 lbs of refrigerant? I may have been (up to) a pound low then. It took less than two 12oz cans. It can't be a very large leak (it holds for too long). I'm assuming it's a seal somewhere near the condenser. I want to say I can hear it, but I don't know? I haven't added dye yet. I want to see if I can solve it w/o dye (I know, I'm stupid. I always make shit harder on myself). I did catch those valves leaking though! Good call. Great advice!


Yea it is triggering the low psi switch. Usually anything below 20 psi with the compressor turning will trigger it. 40 psi is way to low with the engine off. The psi neutralizes between high and low with the engine off (compressor not turning). When the manual says 2.7 pounds it does you no good unless the system is completely empty. Your psi will very depending on the temp outside. You can google generic charts to see what pressure you should need but with the truck running and the compressor on usually 35 to 40 psi on the low side is good. Your high side should be way up there like prob around 200 with the compressor turning (just throwing a rough number out there look at the charts) The Question is where did the it go to began with. If yo want to trouble shoot yourself I would put a can of coolant with leak detect. That way you can get a cheap small black light when it is dark outside to look for a glow on the ac system for a leak. A/c work sucks! It is really not too hard but sometimes leaks can be very very hard to find.


Great advice! You just filled in the rest for me. Seriously, thank you!


You know, you guys are killing me right now! lol. My Dad was an ASE cert. A/C tech before he bled to death in my arms at the age of 49 (I was 20). I feel like such an ******* right now. I still have all of his A/C tools (except for his Glycerine filled gauges - which his old boss stole before I came to pick up his shit, but that's another story ;)), but for all of the automotive knowledge I learned from him, I never took the time to learn his "specialty". What a ******* shame! My bad Pop! I'm sorry.

Anyway, sitting here witnessing you guys freely help me fill in the gaps......well, I can't explain it, but it's pretty cool. Your simple contributions mean so much to me right now. I'm sure my Ol' man is laughing at me, and winking at you guys right now. lol.

Now get up and go let someone know how much you love and appreciate them. ;)
 

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Glad you got it fixed!

Your pops can't be mad at you. You did physically fix it yourself. If you paid to have it fixed at a shop then you may have felt a random smack in the back of the head. Lol
 

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My car was doing the same thing and the dealership had to replace the compressor this past weekend. At least you are fixing it yourself... I just dropped it off at the dealer and got a free rental for 4 days :/
 
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I appreciate it guys! I really do. Thank you.
 

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