DOT Secretary Rolls Back All Emission Standards

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Can we comment without generating whinings and bannings?

Seriously, this subject may generate a bunch of agreement or disagreement. Are we allowed to express it?

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Can we comment without generating whinings and bannings?

Seriously, this subject may generate a bunch of agreement or disagreement. Are we allowed to express it?

joe


I'll wait to see how it plays out. usually an old guy being a talking head into social media isn't the most trustworthy thing. they will say anything for views. if your city/county doesn't change its testing, then non of it really matters.


besides maybe being allow to sell more roll coal devices? yay, I guess
 

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I'll wait to see how it plays out. usually an old guy being a talking head into social media isn't the most trustworthy thing. they will say anything for views. if your city/county doesn't change its testing, then non of it really matters.


besides maybe being allow to sell more roll coal devices? yay, I guess
this is "old" news in term of what's happened since the 20th but in a nutshell it just allows the manufactures to produce vehicles at a more reasonable cost, will it filter down to lower prices? probably not but they should not go up astronomically either. They are not locked into having to make them all have 50mpg ratings in a few more years.
 

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this is "old" news in term of what's happened since the 20th but in a nutshell it just allows the manufactures to produce vehicles at a more reasonable cost, will it filter down to lower prices? probably not but they should not go up astronomically either. They are not locked into having to make them all have 50mpg ratings in a few more years.


sounds like it won't make much difference. car prices never really go down. might limit the money they put into development a bit.
 

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sounds like it won't make much difference. car prices never really go down. might limit the money they put into development a bit.
i'm sure nothing is "retro-active" and they all trade credits anyway, which is why carb is a farce, if california fell off into the ocean, it probably wouldn't change the climate of the rest of the planet, but the high desert east of the sierra's would get more rain.
 

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i'm sure nothing is "retro-active" and they all trade credits anyway, which is why carb is a farce, if california fell off into the ocean, it probably wouldn't change the climate of the rest of the planet, but the high desert east of the sierra's would get more rain.


yeah, last time they lowered standards, didn't Ford end all family car production? they only kept them for the higher fuel mileage numbers helping the average when they could just sell everyone an suv without the car option.

yeah I don't know, the guys that lived here there whole life fell me back in the 80s on hot days the whole sky here was smog clouds.
 

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yeah, last time they lowered standards, didn't Ford end all family car production? they only kept them for the higher fuel mileage numbers helping the average when they could just sell everyone an suv without the car option.

yeah I don't know, the guys that lived here there whole life fell me back in the 80s on hot days the whole sky here was smog clouds.
It certainly was true in Denver. I’m also old enough to remember what car exhaust smelled like before emission controls. At the same time, I also remember how horribly unreliable cars were before the engineers figured out how to do electronic fuel injection. It’s a mixed bag, for sure. Air quality got significantly better over the course of about 15 years, and at the same time I question whether or not regulation is the best way going forward.
 

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Just cancel the California rules, and then use common sense. Their every 2 year smog checks are a cash cow for the smog check lobby.
Figure.... forcing an owner of a 2020 Infiniti to what,.... check their smog emissions? Every 2 years??... Really ?? Follow the money.

If you have a nice muscle car, they fail due to changing the requirements. They try to throw the car away.
I had a '93 Mercedes SL500. I used a 'clone car' to pass smog. If it failed, they refused my registration.
 

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