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yess, carefully! AFR's tell you how mutch you can mix.

No you wil not gain MPG.
Theres a few reasons, but the number one is that the power gain will cause you to mash the gogo pedal harder.

Its best not to mix E85 with normal fuels unless you have a wideband O2 gauge installed and know how to use it.
 

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Its best not to mix E85 with normal fuels . . .

E85 sure ain't normal! Recently, I posted that the overall average miles per gallon of my 2010 Tahoe is 11.13. If I had been using that defective product called E85 since day one, I would have said something like "The overall average miles per gallon of my 2010 Tahoe is 7.79." :signs16:

Consumer Reports magazine, in the September 2011 issue, reported that when they use E85 in their test vehicles, their miles per gallon average drops close to 30%.

E85 is a joke product brought to you courtesy of the jokers ruining, uh, I mean running, the federal government. :badidea:
 
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So it's better to try it on an empty tank? My ltz is flex fuel I just wanna try it out? Any upgrade that I have to donor just fill and go?
 

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No upgrades needed just fill and go. I have a flex fuel 02 and have only used it when it was easy to get to. My sister does not stay by the station that sells it anymore so I haven't used it since she moved. I didn't notice any benefits from using. My truck ran the same. I don't drive it enough to notice a difference in mpg.
 

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it serves no purpose ( except to think you're being green by utilizing natural resources for fuel and not using them for food - corn) to use E85--- you get less MPG and yes pay less per gallon, but you are also getting less MPG. When you comare cost and the unnescessary wear and tear on the engine by using E85, it's not economically worth it--- if i knew a used vehicle ran E85 regularly, i would flat out not by it.
 

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Not only does it cost the user more in the long run to put the E85 junk in their tank, but it costs the taxpayers billions of dollars in welfare payments to farmers and corporations.
 

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it serves no purpose ( except to think you're being green by utilizing natural resources for fuel and not using them for food - corn) to use E85--- you get less MPG and yes pay less per gallon, but you are also getting less MPG. When you comare cost and the unnescessary wear and tear on the engine by using E85, it's not economically worth it--- if i knew a used vehicle ran E85 regularly, i would flat out not by it.

Thats completly retarded. If its a flex vehical beein on the corn juice its entire life, you can bet that intake track and piston tops as as shiney and clean as the day they was assembled.
The vehical was designed with alcohol friendly components. These will outlast non flex fuel vehicals by a landslide.

Now I do agree if its a non flex vehical been run )Without a conversion) on E85 for a LONG time like 5 years or more then no I wouldnt buy it..
But. theres only 3 places that will be affected by E85 on todays LS based engines.. the Fuel pump and the 2 short rubber flex lines leading off the fuel tank and from frame rail to engine hardlines.
Maybe, just maybe injector seals might deteriate. but the parts are so insignificant..

Alcohol based fuels are worlds better than typical petromleum based... It just ****** the USA decided to go CORN based over SUGARCANE.

Im not 100% positive on the country, but its someone like cuba thats been running their vehicals soley on alcohol based fuels made from sugar cane for like 30 years....
The stuff is proven, it works..
American automakers just donot convert to high compression alcohol friendly engines to make up for its lack of legs (MPG vs petroleum based fuel), this is required to reap the rewards from a high octane slow burning fuel..

Think diesal fuel in gas motors... it just doesnt work right..
but put that same diesal fuel in a engine Designed to run it and BOOM! instant high MPG and insane power..
 
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Thats completly retarded. If its a flex vehical beein on the corn juice its entire life, you can bet that intake track and piston tops as as shiney and clean as the day they was assembled.
The vehical was designed with alcohol friendly components. These will outlast non flex fuel vehicals by a landslide.

Now I do agree if its a non flex vehical been run )Without a conversion) on E85 for a LONG time like 5 years or more then no I wouldnt buy it..
But. theres only 3 places that will be affected by E85 on todays LS based engines.. the Fuel pump and the 2 short rubber flex lines leading off the fuel tank and from frame rail to engine hardlines.
Maybe, just maybe injector seals might deteriate. but the parts are so insignificant..

Alcohol based fuels are worlds better than typical petromleum based... It just ****** the USA decided to go CORN based over SUGARCANE.

Im not 100% positive on the country, but its someone like cuba thats been running their vehicals soley on alcohol based fuels made from sugar cane for like 30 years....
The stuff is proven, it works..
American automakers just donot convert to high compression alcohol friendly engines to make up for its lack of legs (MPG vs petroleum based fuel), this is required to reap the rewards from a high octane slow burning fuel..

Think diesal fuel in gas motors... it just doesnt work right..
but put that same diesal fuel in a engine Designed to run it and BOOM! instant high MPG and insane power..

I would have to agree with you here. It's Brazil by the way. I can tell you that Sugar cane ethanol has an energy balance seven times greater than ethanol produced from corn. That is where the US went wrong. On top of that, the corn based product is most definitely more expensive then sugarcane (almost 8 cents per liter).

You see, there is nothing wrong with E85 other then the cost, and the benefits of that cost. It IS greener! It isn't any more efficient though. There is nothing wrong with flex fuel. Brazil has been doing it successfully for years. The trick is getting it right. Corn just isn't the way to go.
 

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