Has Anyone Cross-Shoped The Land Cruiser

[At Law]

All Toyota SUVs are like that, including the LC. Old technology, old engine tech (poor mileage).


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This reminds me of when I was looking at buying my first Range Rover Sport. A friend of mine said Range Rovers are expensive, over-the-top, and completely unreliable......

I ended up buying three of them in a row.

 

[GTNator]

This reminds me of when I was looking at buying my first Range Rover Sport. A friend of mine said Range Rovers are expensive, over-the-top, and completely unreliable......

I ended up buying three of them in a row.

Then why don’t you do it? You’ve been looking at these for a year now. Sounds like you know what you want. Post pics of you’re new LC.

Also, out of curiosity, how was the quality on those 3 Range Rovers?


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[swathdiver]

Here's a Land Cruiser towing:

I think the fella is overloaded and running highway tires.

 

[At Law]

Then why don’t you do it? You’ve been looking at these for a year now. Sounds like you know what you want. Post pics of you’re new LC.

Also, out of curiosity, how was the quality on those 3 Range Rovers?


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Ha. Believe me, I do need to make a decision at last. The Tahoe keeps pulling me back based on a number of positive factors. The rarity factor (at least in the Midwest) of the LC is somewhat intriguing.

The reliability of my Range Rovers were both good and bad.

I purchased a one year old, at the time, 2008 Range Rover Sport with 14k miles on it from Aristocrat LR in Kansas City. It was plagued with a number of suspension issues, steering issues, poor body fit and finish, and a number of unique electrical issues. The electronic parking brake would inadvertently activate at highway speeds--causing the vehicle to go into "limp mode" frequently. One time this caused the rear brakes to get red hot and deactivate. I am sure this is why the original owner traded it in.
I kept it for a couple of years and traded it in for a new BMW 550 MSport.

I then decided to lease a new 2012 Range Rover Sport Supercharged in 2012. It was a fine vehicle re reliability, however, I only kept it a year and put 8,000 miles on it before trading it for another 2013 Range Rover Sport Supercharged Autobiography. The 2013 seemed to have a poor interior quality level (rattles, etc) and, once again, unique electronic "gremlins."

Overall, I would never own a Land Rover / Jaguar outside of factory warranty. Repairs on these vehicles, which are very frequent, consistently are in the thousands of dollars. This is why out-of-warranty LRs / Jaguars (and most German cars) are quickly found on seedy used car lots--the target buyer of these vehicles is looking for something besides dependability.

The subtle demeanor of both the Tahoe and the Land Cruiser is very appealing to me in my business. The added reliability and cost effectiveness is another bonus.

 

[swathdiver]

The subtle demeanor of both the Tahoe and the Land Cruiser is very appealing to me in my business. The added reliability and cost effectiveness is another bonus.

 

[cardude2000]

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Toyota makes more vehicles in the US than Chevy.

 

[Hrocks]

This reminds me of when I was looking at buying my first Range Rover Sport. A friend of mine said Range Rovers are expensive, over-the-top, and completely unreliable......

I ended up buying three of them in a row.

Based on the other vehicles that you own, I would simply suggest that you drive either a Sequoia, LC or an LX and you will make the right decision. I love my 2010 LTZ that I gave my son to drive, but I now have two GX460's. I really hate to say it, but you can feel the quality as soon as you go from the GMT2KXX models to a Toyota product. (BTW, I still like my GMT 900 Tahoe more than the new problem riddled, booming versions.)

 

[munch520]

We compared both when we were looking for my wife’s truck. Ended up with the Yukon for her because she liked the size better and we needed the extra tow rating. We both preferred the ride in the LC, that KDSS system really reigns in body roll and doesn’t seem as upset by bumps mid-apex in turns.

I currently have a Genesis G80 and 100% set my next ride will be a 2016+ Land Cruiser, with the brown interior/black headliner. I really like the redesigned interior, only nitpick I had was lack of Apple CarPlay. And the tumble-forward second row can hit the screens mounted to the back of the front seats. Other than that, materials were nice, very comfy seats, and interior felt roomy. I like the mix of luxury and some utilitarianism, reminds me of older Land Rovers in that sense.

It’s also almost a foot shorter than the Tahoe/Yukon. Although to me it doesn’t feel it. Seems easier to maneuver in tight spaces.

It ain’t cheap, but they’re partially hand assembled, super low volume (the Lamborghini Huracan outsells it 2:1), and way overbuilt. My plan is to pick up a used one in a few years and drive it for a decade, then give it to my boys. A lot of dealerships include a lifetime powertrain warranty with the used ones.

Check out @overlanddad on Instagram. Awesome rig.

 

[G00se]

We compared both when we were looking for my wife’s truck. Ended up with the Yukon for her because she liked the size better and we needed the extra tow rating. We both preferred the ride in the LC, that KDSS system really reigns in body roll and doesn’t seem as upset by bumps mid-apex in turns.

I currently have a Genesis G80 and 100% set my next ride will be a 2016+ Land Cruiser, with the brown interior/black headliner. I really like the redesigned interior, only nitpick I had was lack of Apple CarPlay. And the tumble-forward second row can hit the screens mounted to the back of the front seats. Other than that, materials were nice, very comfy seats, and interior felt roomy. I like the mix of luxury and some utilitarianism, reminds me of older Land Rovers in that sense.

It’s also almost a foot shorter than the Tahoe/Yukon. Although to me it doesn’t feel it. Seems easier to maneuver in tight spaces.

It ain’t cheap, but they’re partially hand assembled, super low volume (the Lamborghini Huracan outsells it 2:1), and way overbuilt. My plan is to pick up a used one in a few years and drive it for a decade, then give it to my boys. A lot of dealerships include a lifetime powertrain warranty with the used ones.

Check out @overlanddad on Instagram. Awesome rig.

overlanddad's ride is sweet!

 

[WillCO]

We compared both when we were looking for my wife’s truck. Ended up with the Yukon for her because she liked the size better and we needed the extra tow rating. We both preferred the ride in the LC, that KDSS system really reigns in body roll and doesn’t seem as upset by bumps mid-apex in turns.

I currently have a Genesis G80 and 100% set my next ride will be a 2016+ Land Cruiser, with the brown interior/black headliner. I really like the redesigned interior, only nitpick I had was lack of Apple CarPlay. And the tumble-forward second row can hit the screens mounted to the back of the front seats. Other than that, materials were nice, very comfy seats, and interior felt roomy. I like the mix of luxury and some utilitarianism, reminds me of older Land Rovers in that sense.

It’s also almost a foot shorter than the Tahoe/Yukon. Although to me it doesn’t feel it. Seems easier to maneuver in tight spaces.

It ain’t cheap, but they’re partially hand assembled, super low volume (the Lamborghini Huracan outsells it 2:1), and way overbuilt. My plan is to pick up a used one in a few years and drive it for a decade, then give it to my boys. A lot of dealerships include a lifetime powertrain warranty with the used ones.

Great post. The Apple Carplay issue is annoying across Toyota's lineup. Mercedes too. I think the car companies need to get the memo on this technology; it is critical and I'd have to think hard about whether I'd be willing to drive a car without it daily.

 

[PwrdbyM]

I heavily shopped the 200 series Cruiser and LX570. I was looking to spend under 60k so I was limited to used for the LC side. I started leaning more towards the LX because it has a much better interior and offered more luxury features. The model for the 200 series has been the same since 08 and the LC had a freshening in 16, which is current. A main difference between the 2 is the LX has a hydrolytic suspension system which adds a layer of maintenance. But because of this the LX depreciates a bit more than the LC on the used market (overland builders don't want the adjustable suspension) so you'll find they're very close in price used. In the end I was buying a 3-4 year old vehicle with 40-60k miles on it for the same price as a new Tahoe. In the end my wife wanted some of the modern safety tech which isn't current on the 200 series platforms.

In your case you're buying new so the price spread is your concern. In both situations sacrifices are made to get into the LC/LX.

I actually went to look at a very used 08 Cruiser my Chevy dealer had in stock not long ago. 190k miles but they only listed it for $21k and I was thinking I could get it OTD for under 20. It had some wear but mechanically was solid as could be. I didn’t need it by any means so I passed on the buy (probably would have led to $10k in overlanding add on parts).

I can say for sure I'd have no issue putting a 3yr old Cruiser in my garage, it's reliability/durability is the best in the business period. Anyone who doesn't choose a land cruiser as their apocalypse vehicle is wrong. Good luck with your search.