Hate my Denali

[Rdr854]

The first owner may have lemoned it... Lemons get put back into the stream of commerce like any other vehicle (probably not in the same area, though).

They do. Go to Samcrac on YouTube. He bought a lemon Lincoln with 800 miles on the odometer and thought he got such a deal. As Steve Lehto says on YouTube, never buy a vehicle that has been lemoned.

 

[cardude2000]

They do. Go to Samcrac on YouTube. He bought a lemon Lincoln with 800 miles on the odometer and thought he got such a deal. As Steve Lehto says on YouTube, never buy a vehicle that has been lemoned.

Indicators, tail lights and heated seats.

Those are things that went wrong. No matter how you treated the vehicle (save for it being in a flood) those are all independent components that, with only rare exception, should last for at least 50k miles.

 

[BourbonNcigars]

I don't like being in debt

That statement pretty much sums up my financial decisions.

 

[Doubeleive]

I agree with the OP. Our '12 was an excellent vehicle but not our '17. Dealer decided he couldn't fix the problems we were having and said they would call when GM came up with a fix. Called GM and they said I had to take it up with the dealer. A second dealer diagnosed the same problems as different ones than the first dealer but said they were not "abnormal" and that I might want to contact GM. And the circle continues...

that doesn't jive, the dealer would contact GM and then get a possible solution from them and then proceed to repair the problem if so authorized, they shouldn't be telling a customer to contact the manufacturer. My local GM dealer has been here 66 years no way would they send a customer out the door like that

The older you get the longer your brakes last Gary!

Unless you're name is Wes and live in California! LOL

Shush....lol

 

[Doubeleive]

I don't like being in debt nor do I wanna be the one to take the new car depreciation hit. If I wanted a "new" car, there are PLENTY of like-new, short lease returns, buyer-messed-up-and-never-should've-bought-the-new-car-in-the-first-place returns, etc. to pick from.

I'd rather buy an older but like-new model that, to the best of my mechanical inspection abilities and research, has/had no issues other than the common ones. This leaves room in the budget for repairs that MAY happen versus a new car with a high note that always WILL happen.

ya those first 5 years of depreciation.....ouch, no thanks my rule is to buy at 5 years old after someone else took the hit.

 

[PG01]

ya those first 5 years of depreciation.....ouch, no thanks my rule is to buy at 5 years old after someone else took the hit.

I like car payments...... keeps me regular.....

 

[Miami-Dade]

ya those first 5 years of depreciation.....ouch, no thanks my rule is to buy at 5 years old after someone else took the hit.

Wish that would work for me...If I were to buy a 5 year old vehicle I will start off with mileage anywhere from 50-80K miles. I would be up to 150-200K miles in a few short years. I figure instead of paying for repairs I might as well have car payments and worry less about breaking down in the middle of nowhere as I am on the road a lot. I do not fly and drive everywhere.

If you do not put on a lot of miles a 5 year old vehicle will work well providing the original owner took awesome care of it and can prove it with service records.

All that IMHO. To each their own.

 

[iamdub]

Wish that would work for me...If I were to buy a 5 year old vehicle I will start off with mileage anywhere from 50-80K miles. I would be up to 150-200K miles in a few short years. I figure instead of paying for repairs I might as well have car payments and worry less about breaking down in the middle of nowhere as I am on the road a lot. I do not fly and drive everywhere.

If you do not put on a lot of miles a 5 year old vehicle will work well providing the original owner took awesome care of it and can prove it with service records.

All that IMHO. To each their own.

That's the problem, though. People are buying new/nearly-new $50K-$60K+ GM SUVs thinking they're paying for quality and making them "immune" from being stranded, then having it in the shop every couple of months for various issues that are obviously directly related to poor quality control.

Yes, many of these issues have been resolved with the newer models. They damned well should being they've had three and four years to find fixes for their cut corners. But still, a ~$60K SUV in 2015 shouldn't have such ubiquitous failures in the first place.

 

[08HoeCD]

That's the problem, though. People are buying new/nearly-new $50K-$60K+ GM SUVs thinking they're paying for quality and making them "immune" from being stranded, then having it in the shop every couple of months for various issues that are obviously directly related to poor quality control.

Yes, many of these issues have been resolved with the newer models. They damned well should being they've had three and four years to find fixes for their cut corners. But still, a ~$60K SUV in 2015 shouldn't have such ubiquitous failures in the first place.

I'll put on my burn suit, as I'll surely get flamed, but....

I'd never spend over $30k on a GM product. There's far too much evidence that the design, engineering and QC of tge product line simply can't or won't support a trouble-free vehicle ownership experience relative to many other brands.

I've been in consumer product manufacturing, distribution and QC for over 30 years. I know what I'm talking about.

 

[Miami-Dade]

I'll put on my burn suit, as I'll surely get flamed, but....

I'd never spend over $30k on a GM product. There's far too much evidence that the design, engineering and QC of tge product line simply can't or won't support a trouble-free vehicle ownership experience relative to many other brands.

I've been in consumer product manufacturing, distribution and QC for over 30 years. I know what I'm talking about.

All my GM vehicles have been trouble free for over 200K miles [some to 300K miles] starting with my brand new 1970 GTO with the 400..All my V8 Impalas,Caprices and Cadillacs were awesome.