Intermittent Serial Data Problem

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I'm back from a long time ago! I bought an 05 Suburban to fix up but I may be in over my head. I've learned a bit about this system since I got the truck home but apparently some module is interrupting communication through the class B serial data system. Most of the time, the gauges are all zeroed out except for speedo and tach. When it's like that, the shift indicator does not underline the current gear. Also when it's like that, dome lights don't work, auto door lock doesn't work, etc. etc.

It's my understanding that all of the modules communicate through one wire and if one shorts out or malfunctions it can throw off the whole system. I don't have a scanner that can give me module status but I do have HPTuners. during the times when the gauges are working, I can read/write with my tuner. When the gauges are malfunctioning I can't connect. So I have plugged in my scanner and started unplugging modules to see if it lets me connect and so far disconnecting the ones I've tried has not made a difference. So I think I've ruled out the BCM, gauge cluster, HVAC, Transfer case, Radio, and maybe the ABS, although when I messed with that one the gauges worked for just long enough that I thought I might have solved it.

From what I've seen around here, it looks like there might be an expert on this system that can help me diagnose the problem. If I have to, I'll pull the entire interior and check every module and ground and look for any shorts along the harness. In the worst case I think I could get something like this: https://currentperformance.com/shop/nbs-99-07-silverado-sierra-suburban-tahoe-integration-harness/ which appears to replace the whole body harness.

Does anyone have any obvious or not so obvious things to check?
 

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WAG: remove the two connectors from the ECU (left front of engine compartment) and check for water migration, pin fitment, etc. Those gaskets can leak and cause issues. Not sure if that's a cause but something to check.
 
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When I bought the truck it wouldn't start and I couldn't connect with my HPTuners. I pulled the PCM and flashed it with VATS deleted. I didn't notice anything weird there, but I bet that is the kind of problem I'm having. There is also a parasitic power draw that will kill the battery if it sits for a few days.
 

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Here is a thread on a similar topic:

Parasitic draw with modules out

And this is a YouTube video on fixing parasitic draw.
QUADRASTEER! GM Parasitic Battery Drain from the FACTORY? (Part 2)
(Ignore the fact that it is for a quadrasteer. It applies to pretty much any GMT800)

Other YouTube Videos:
Silverado battery drain FIX
The BEST Way TO Perform a Parasitic Draw Test

I suggest doing some additional searches here (TYF) on "parasitic". There are a few threads floating around.
I also suggest the same on YouTube.

The information I provided was just part of a quick search. I don't like to just shout at people "do your own searches". I had that done to me before and I hate it. So I usually do a quick search, post results, and then suggest search better than me for more results. Good luck! And don't give up!!!
 

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Here is a thread on a similar topic:

Parasitic draw with modules out

And this is a YouTube video on fixing parasitic draw.
QUADRASTEER! GM Parasitic Battery Drain from the FACTORY? (Part 2)
(Ignore the fact that it is for a quadrasteer. It applies to pretty much any GMT800)

Other YouTube Videos:
Silverado battery drain FIX
The BEST Way TO Perform a Parasitic Draw Test

I suggest doing some additional searches here (TYF) on "parasitic". There are a few threads floating around.
I also suggest the same on YouTube.

The information I provided was just part of a quick search. I don't like to just shout at people "do your own searches". I had that done to me before and I hate it. So I usually do a quick search, post results, and then suggest search better than me for more results. Good luck! And don't give up!!!

Be careful on that Quadrasteer video -- Ivan didn't know about the long "sleep" time on the HVAC module. I emailed him after I saw that. I've attached the TSB that states the AUTO HVAC module can take a loooong time to go to sleep.

It's also in this thread: https://www.tahoeyukonforum.com/thr...dead-then-battery-drained.151854/post-1935027
 

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