No Refresh for 2024

[BG1988]

Yeah that's not true. Not everything is a conspiracy. Some brands have tons of inventory and discounts (FCA 10% off msrp ), others don't have much inventory ( GM full size suv, toyota hybrids, etc). Carry on.

Huh?
This hidden car lot has well over 1,000 cars and trucks in storage ...

How is this a conspiracy? those are not the workers for the quarry...

 

[CMoore711]

Just an opinion. Gm should fix the glitches it has with the current full size SUV’s before updating anything. Maybe Then they might be worth the $ they’re charging for them…

Fixed that for you.

 

[Banks22]

Huh?
This hidden car lot has well over 1,000 cars and trucks in storage ...

How is this a conspiracy? those are not the workers for the quarry...

The flint, MI plant also has thousands of HD Chevy and gmc’s trucks just sitting there missing chips, mostly 2023’s I believe. Manufacturers are on such a push for EV they have to inflate the gas vehicle prices to match the EV prices or else no one is going to buy them, which it was just reported that Ford lost $4.5 billion on EV. The mach mustang can’t sell, and the lightning has slowed way down.

 

[BDM3]

Huh?
This hidden car lot has well over 1,000 cars and trucks in storage ...

How is this a conspiracy? those are not the workers for the quarry...

yeah those really look hidden right off the Highway in plain sight for everyone to see. I bet the dealers thought no one would ever think to look there.

 

[DuraYuk]

Huh?
This hidden car lot has well over 1,000 cars and trucks in storage ...

How is this a conspiracy? those are not the workers for the quarry...

Dude FCA has vehicles everywhere. They are 10% off at almost every dealer. They have way way to much inventory. They are not hiding them. That's just a storage lot. Now find me the 1000s of toyota hybrids that are hidden?! Or GM full size suvs?! They don't exist. Because they are in demand.

YouTube people get paid on clicks. You just made them that much richer thinking you uncovered some secret conspiracy lol.

 

[todayusay]

The flint, MI plant also has thousands of HD Chevy and gmc’s trucks just sitting there missing chips, mostly 2023’s I believe. Manufacturers are on such a push for EV they have to inflate the gas vehicle prices to match the EV prices or else no one is going to buy them, which it was just reported that Ford lost $4.5 billion on EV. The mach mustang can’t sell, and the lightning has slowed way down.

Every GM dealer I've driven by over the summer has the truck section of their lot full. The dealers that are turning their inventory over are the ones that aren't holding on to the covid pricing structure.

Although FCA vehicles can be bought at 10% off, GM trucks can be bought for 10% off as well with probably the same amount of leg work it takes to find the Rams that are discounted.

My guess is we are probably 6 months away from Tahoes/Yukons being readily available.

We ordered a 23 Z71 Tahoe at the end of last summer. Went online today and found three sitting on a lot that matched our build (beige exterior) and quite a few Z71s in random colors. Saw a random FB ad a week so ago for an AT4 available at a small town dealer - checked today - still there.

If it was going to 4-6 weeks on ordering one, I'd do it again, but I wouldn't "pay" for that "opportunity" to order by over paying in the current market.

 

[Banks22]

Every GM dealer I've driven by over the summer has the truck section of their lot full. The dealers that are turning their inventory over are the ones that aren't holding on to the covid pricing structure.

Although FCA vehicles can be bought at 10% off, GM trucks can be bought for 10% off as well with probably the same amount of leg work it takes to find the Rams that are discounted.

My guess is we are probably 6 months away from Tahoes/Yukons being readily available.

We ordered a 23 Z71 Tahoe at the end of last summer. Went online today and found three sitting on a lot that matched our build (beige exterior) and quite a few Z71s in random colors. Saw a random FB ad a week so ago for an AT4 available at a small town dealer - checked today - still there.

If it was going to 4-6 weeks on ordering one, I'd do it again, but I wouldn't "pay" for that "opportunity" to order by over paying in the current market.

The 2-3 dealerships I always look at have 4 Tahoes available at one and 8 Yukons at the other.

 

[Polo08816]

Every GM dealer I've driven by over the summer has the truck section of their lot full. The dealers that are turning their inventory over are the ones that aren't holding on to the covid pricing structure.

Although FCA vehicles can be bought at 10% off, GM trucks can be bought for 10% off as well with probably the same amount of leg work it takes to find the Rams that are discounted.

My guess is we are probably 6 months away from Tahoes/Yukons being readily available.

We ordered a 23 Z71 Tahoe at the end of last summer. Went online today and found three sitting on a lot that matched our build (beige exterior) and quite a few Z71s in random colors. Saw a random FB ad a week so ago for an AT4 available at a small town dealer - checked today - still there.

If it was going to 4-6 weeks on ordering one, I'd do it again, but I wouldn't "pay" for that "opportunity" to order by over paying in the current market.

The 2-3 dealerships I always look at have 4 Tahoes available at one and 8 Yukons at the other.

I think so as well.I wouldn't be surprised if we're back to pre-pandemic production levels by the end of 2024.

 

[tjs3922]

I think demand for the big boy SUV's is always strong and will remain so. It will defiantly grow closer to pre pandemic demand levels. Getting Yukons and Suburbans has always been dicey in my area (Wisconsin)

Now my local dealer seems to be getting heavy in truck inventory (GMc and Chevy). Heck, most of the trucks on this lot are 60K plus. Working guys want something under 45K. They also seem to be unable to give Acadia's away. Most of these are 52K plus.

A change is coming, one way or another.

 

[Murrawk]

I see your point… But the advantage you speak of can work both ways right? Release a year sooner and sure you’ve beat the competition to the punch but you’ve also now set the bar for the competition to beat right? I know a year isn’t a long time to make major model changes but at least you know the competition at that point.

Think of all the people that jumped ship to Ford when they were comparing Ford’s latest full-size SUV model to GM’s “latest” 1-2 year old model refresh.

Ford can have and keep their V6TT full-size SUV’s. GM has made the better choice by sticking with the V8 and offering a turbo diesel option.

Now if Ford were to wise up and offer their 5.0 V8 as an option for their full-size SUV platform that’s a different conversation.

I agree. Unless a turbo v6 is of interest, Ford is out.