Think I'm trading Yukon Denali for Navigator.

[GTNator]

I looked at both the Expedition and Navigator LWB. They’re ok, not great. No V8 makes the exhaust note sound like a kitchen appliance. But the deal breaker for me was the very noticeably smaller cargo area behind the ford/Lincoln 3rd row LWB. Compare a Suburban/XL/ESV cargo area to the Ford Max and you’ll see there’s no comparison. And since we (5) like taking road trips, cargo space is king.

Plus, even Car&Driver said the current Escalade drives better than the new Navigator.


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[GTNator]

‘protect the queen protect the queen!!!’

I think they look great and the nav black edition is sweet. Not sure I’d go to a suv without a V8 but I’d certainly consider.

Good luck and congrats on trying other vehicles, life if short, drive lots of stuff!

Stop talking about that queen, lol, we know you’re getting the new Yukon... You’re a logical person and logic will lead you to the new generation Yukon.

Can you imagine if the rumors are true about the Denali/Esky engine, 6.2 twin turbo!


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[Larryjb]

sounds like nothing has changed, every big ford I have driven rides like a dam boat on the water

So, at risk of being we have the 2008 Explorer and my Tahoe. The Explorer is almost too stiff in it's suspension, but I do like how it drives. The VVT sure makes it quick for a 4.6 L V8 and it had no trouble pulling a trailer up the CA grapevine.

That said, I prefer the relative simplicity of the pushrod v8. I'm not a big fan of Ecoboost either. It's expensive technology to fix.

 

[cardude2000]

the deal breaker for me was...

Uh huh lol

 

[cardude2000]

You’re a logical person and logic will lead you to the new generation Yukon.

Can you imagine if the rumors are true about the Denali/Esky engine, 6.2 twin turbo!


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Probably. Not a fan of the Ford V6 and the MBGL550 I’m worried will be a maintenance suck (and the dealer is 30 mins from me). Though I gotta say, my wife’s E series was completely trouble free for 5 years.

No other real competitors unfortunately.

 

[cardude2000]

The Explorer is almost too stiff in it's suspension

The 2008 is almost 2 model changes old though I think? There’s a new 2020 model coming out and the current gen drives like a minivan.


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[mikeyss]

The 2008 is almost 2 model changes old though I think? There’s a new 2020 model coming out and the current gen drives like a minivan.


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I have a current gen 2016 Explorer Sport and it definitely doesn't drive like a minivan, far from it actually. I love my Tahoe and Denali truck, but the Explorer is a blast to drive especially now that I have a 5star tune. My tuned 6.2 barely hangs with it till 70mph, after that the Explorer leaves the 6.2 in the dust. Top end on that Ecoboost is crazy when it's tuned. I am not a GM or Ford fanboy by any means, I'm just a car enthusiast and will drive anything at least once, lol.

 

[cardude2000]

I have a current gen 2016 Explorer Sport and it definitely doesn't drive like a minivan, far from it actually. I love my Tahoe and Denali truck, but the Explorer is a blast to drive especially now that I have a 5star tune. My tuned 6.2 barely hangs with it till 70mph, after that the Explorer leaves the 6.2 in the dust. Top end on that Ecoboost is crazy when it's tuned. I am not a GM or Ford fanboy by any means, I'm just a car enthusiast and will drive anything at least once, lol.

I was simply talking ride-wise, not power. The current gen explorer sits on a 20 year old Volvo derived setup. To me it feels like a minivan vs a bouncy truck. I like the feel of it frankly.

 

[swathdiver]

I have a current gen 2016 Explorer Sport and it definitely doesn't drive like a minivan, far from it actually. I love my Tahoe and Denali truck, but the Explorer is a blast to drive especially now that I have a 5star tune. My tuned 6.2 barely hangs with it till 70mph, after that the Explorer leaves the 6.2 in the dust. Top end on that Ecoboost is crazy when it's tuned. I am not a GM or Ford fanboy by any means, I'm just a car enthusiast and will drive anything at least once, lol.

But if you were to tow or go off road, which would you choose? The unibody or the one with the full frame?

 

[mikeyss]

But if you were to tow or go off road, which would you choose? The unibody or the one with the full frame?

That's why I have a variety of vehicles.