Thinking of selling my new 6.2L Denali...

[KMeloney]

Admittedly I was getting a bit anxious about the news concerning the engine. My Tahoe is only 4 months old, so to speak. It has 9,000+ miles on it now and I am getting ready to take a long trip. Supposedly the oil range can be up to 7,500 miles between oil changes but the dealer wanted to change oil at 5,000. Is that the best route to take to hopefully negate some of the concern about engine failure: oil change every 5K?

It certainly can't hurt.

 

[PPV_2018]

Reality is even the new land rover defender is way more reliable than a cursory forum search will show.

I love this entire post and agreed wholeheartedly but this part is where you lost me. Land rovers *initial* quality may be great. But they are truly trash once over a certain threshold. Don’t care how well they were maintenanced.

Like the old saying goes, if fluid ain’t underneath it, fluid ain’t in it. (Had a 2000 Land Rover discovery, very FUN truck, but one of the worst vehicles i ever owned).

I still agree with the main sentiment that forum naysayers can make you overthink the most trivial of things.. let any particular forum tell it, and you’d think there is no reliable vehicle ever made.

 

[jfoj]

Anyone planning on running OCI over probably 6000k miles should probably be performing oil sampling at some fixed interval to determine if the oil contamination is becoming a problem.

A kit like this if the tube will fit down the dipstick can be used to obtain an oil sample. I know the earlier 6.0l had a flattened dipstick tube and could not fish anything inside it.

https://www.amazon.com/Extractor-Multi-Use-Transfer-kits%EF%BC%8Cinclude-tube%EF%BC%8Cbottle%EF%BC%8C/dp/B0C6PZX5C3/ref=asc_df_B0C6PZX5C3?mcid=adeabd43351338adafc0868f05f2d35c&tag=hyprod-20&linkCode=df0&hvadid=693334113981&hvpos=&hvnetw=g&hvrand=776539549747177221&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9009963&hvtargid=pla-2201989672079&psc=1

But for the money that is spent on oil analysis, you might as well just change it. In most areas you can get a quality synthetic oil and filter for about $50 if you are doing your own oil changes. There are other reasons to have shorter OCI in these newer DI engines. My plan, and this is my plan, is not to exceed 4000 miles between oil changes. Some may think this is too often, but this is my plan. I really do not trust the fuel contamination and oil breakdown and carbon or potential sludge build up with ultra long Oil Change Intervals. Unfortunately I think the DI engines introduce a lot of cylinder oil wash down and carbon buildup with the low tension oil rings can be problematic. Not sure there is a real solution for much of this.

All the marketing hype about 15,000 mile oil and 15,000 oil filters is not something I am going to buy into.

 

[DuraYuk]

I love this entire post and agreed wholeheartedly but this part is where you lost me. Land rovers *initial* quality may be great. But they are truly trash once over a certain threshold. Don’t care how well they were maintenanced.

Like the old saying goes, if fluid ain’t underneath it, fluid ain’t in it. (Had a 2000 Land Rover discovery, very FUN truck, but one of the worst vehicles i ever owned).

I still agree with the main sentiment that forum naysayers can make you overthink the most trivial of things.. let any particular forum tell it, and you’d think there is no reliable vehicle ever made.

Dude 2000 and 2025 is a completely different animal. That's 25 years of making better processes that are not secrets to any one manufacturer. We live in 2025. The only reason a car is bad is because of a supplied part that is out of spec. Not bad design. It's the same issue that has plagued GM for a long time.

 

[PPV_2018]

Dude 2000 and 2025 is a completely different animal. That's 25 years of making better processes that are not secrets to any one manufacturer. We live in 2025. The only reason a car is bad is because of a supplied part that is out of spec. Not bad design. It's the same issue that has plagued GM for a long time.

& exactly how many land rovers / range rovers have you owned . . .

 

[DuraYuk]

& exactly how many land rovers / range rovers have you owned . . .

4. We love our range rover sports. Never had any issues except once with the air suspension compressor.

I was never really a big fan but my wife was and she had one when we met. I was convinced it was a ticking time bomb and it never went off lmao. So we kept getting newer ones.

I'm on the fence about ordering a 2 door defender with the supercharged v8 for a compact fun vehicle.

We got rid of my wife's last range rover for the yukon as we needed more size. And have ordered a XL cuz we need even more space lol.

I like the extended defender too but it's too small..still cool tho

 

[PPV_2018]

4. We love our range rover sports. Never had any issues except once with the air suspension compressor.

I was never really a big fan but my wife was and she had one when we met. I was convinced it was a ticking time bomb and it never went off lmao. So we kept getting newer ones.

I'm on the fence about ordering a 2 door defender with the supercharged v8 for a compact fun vehicle.

We got rid of my wife's last range rover for the yukon as we needed more size. And have ordered a XL cuz we need even more space lol.

I like the extended defender too but it's too small..still cool tho

You haven’t stated how old the Rovers are or what the mileage you’re getting rid of them at.. but if you are buying new LR/RR, riding them 30/40/50K and then trading them in for new ones, congratulations.. you are LR’s target demographic.
2000 LR Disco leaked every fluid possible. Don’t matter how much TLC you put into it, it was always some new weird issue. interior and body were absolute MINT! This was almost 15 years ago, so it’s not like we’re talking about a 25 year old truck. Sold it to a scrapper.

2017 RR HSE, entire infotainment went haywire at 60K. Big pita. Truck ONLY serviced at Land Rover dealer since new. Has like 68K on it now, sounds like a pawn shop dirt devil with low batteries.

My personal experience isn’t forum fearmongering. If you have had great luck with LR/RR, buying them used and riding them 100’s of thousands of miles, more power to you . . . but if so, i think you are the exception and *NOT the rule. Plus, i am not sure how much stock in ‘reliability’ i would put in a company that refuses to service their own vehicles that are older than 8 years from the newest model year.

Meanwhile, tahoe/burb/yukon have pretty much had a solid reputation for being generally reliable and capable trucks / workhorses since their inception, .. the whole 6.2 grenading itself with no warning phenomena seems to be the exception, not the rule.

 

[DuraYuk]

You haven’t stated how old the Rovers are or what the mileage you’re getting rid of them at.. but if you are buying new LR/RR, riding them 30/40/50K and then trading them in for new ones, congratulations.. you are LR’s target demographic.
2000 LR Disco leaked every fluid possible. Don’t matter how much TLC you put into it, it was always some new weird issue. interior and body were absolute MINT! This was almost 15 years ago, so it’s not like we’re talking about a 25 year old truck. Sold it to a scrapper.

2017 RR HSE, entire infotainment went haywire at 60K. Big pita. Truck ONLY serviced at Land Rover dealer since new. Has like 68K on it now, sounds like a pawn shop dirt devil with low batteries.

My personal experience isn’t forum fearmongering. If you have had great luck with LR/RR, buying them used and riding them 100’s of thousands of miles, more power to you . . . but if so, i think you are the exception and *NOT the rule. Plus, i am not sure how much stock in ‘reliability’ i would put in a company that refuses to service their own vehicles that are older than 8 years from the newest model year.

Meanwhile, tahoe/burb/yukon have pretty much had a solid reputation for being generally reliable and capable trucks / workhorses since their inception, .. the whole 6.2 grenading itself with no warning phenomena seems to be the exception, not the rule.

Yeah man im not sure what you are trying to argue. You had bad luck. Sorry.

It happens. Somewhere there's a guy with a broken down toyota corolla screaming to the heavens....it happens to all.

We kept them till we got bored. Purchased new. Anywhere from 80 to 165k miles when we got rid of them.

Land rovers main current objective is to shake their reliability concerns so hopefully that continues to improve.