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I have a 2015 Ltz. I’ve been towing a 30’ travel trailer for a few years but mainly on the east coast. My question is how is it towing on steeper grades of 5-8%? I’m going out west to Moab, Yellowstone,Glacier,and the Badlands out of Georgia and back. Any advice or suggestions?
 

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I have a 2015 Ltz. I’ve been towing a 30’ travel trailer for a few years but mainly on the east coast. My question is how is it towing on steeper grades of 5-8%? I’m going out west to Moab, Yellowstone,Glacier,and the Badlands out of Georgia and back. Any advice or suggestions?
Slow down and spend more time in 4th.
 

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I have a 2015 Ltz. I’ve been towing a 30’ travel trailer for a few years but mainly on the east coast. My question is how is it towing on steeper grades of 5-8%? I’m going out west to Moab, Yellowstone,Glacier,and the Badlands out of Georgia and back. Any advice or suggestions?
I pulled our 32' camper out to the Grand Tetons and Yellowstone last summer behind our 2012 XL Denali with the 6.2 from Virginia. I've made some mods to it including a bigger cam, 2-row Cold Case radiator and a Derale fan-forced transmission cooler and had no problems, but I would have been fine without those mods and the factory setup. Lots of folks pulling campers this size behind their 5.3 and having good results.

Don't sweat the transmission temps. You will see 230-240ºF on a few occasions pulling up some big passes (e.g. Togwotee Pass), but don't worry - the fluid is good to 265, according to GM powertrain engineers, with up to 275 okay for short bursts. You will also see the coolant temp gauge rise to above 235 on occasion - also okay. As James says, just let it run in 4th or even 3rd or 2nd as needed to keep your speed up. It's designed to handle it. I've studied this topic exhaustively here and elsewhere and wouldn't hesitate to do what you're planning.
 
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I pulled our 32' camper out to the Grand Tetons and Yellowstone last summer behind our 2012 XL Denali with the 6.2 from Virginia. I've made some mods to it including a bigger cam, 2-row Cold Case radiator and a Derale fan-forced transmission cooler and had no problems, but I would have been fine without those mods and the factory setup. Lots of folks pulling campers this size behind their 5.3 and having good results.

Don't sweat the transmission temps. You will see 230-240ºF on a few occasions pulling up some big passes (e.g. Togwotee Pass), but don't worry - the fluid is good to 265, according to GM powertrain engineers, with up to 275 okay for short bursts. You will also see the coolant temp gauge rise to above 235 on occasion - also okay. As James says, just let it run in 4th or even 3rd or 2nd as needed to keep your speed up. It's designed to handle it. I've studied this topic exhaustively here and elsewhere and wouldn't hesitate to do what you're planning.
Thank you ,this is great information and I’m trying to figure out when to put it in one of those gears and take it out.
 

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Thank you ,this is great information and I’m trying to figure out when to put it in one of those gears and take it out.
When I tow, I use tow/haul mode and then set the transmission to M5 to keep it from hunting in and out of 6th. If I'm pulling into a headwind and it's hunting between 4/5 then I'll put it in M4 until I think it'll hold 5th again. The main thing is to prevent it from hunting/shifting frequently in whatever the current conditions are.
 
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When I tow, I use tow/haul mode and then set the transmission to M5 to keep it from hunting in and out of 6th. If I'm pulling into a headwind and it's hunting between 4/5 then I'll put it in M4 until I think it'll hold 5th again. The main thing is to prevent it from hunting/shifting frequently in whatever the current conditions are.
Do you keep it in one of those gears even when going downhill? The reason why I ask is because I was told that the engine braking is disengaged when it’s in one of those gears.
 

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I pulled 6100lbs up and over multiple 6-7% grades up and down the west coast from Southern California through Oregon, Washington, Idaho and Montana and back. Roughly 3000 miles. Just take things slow (especially downhill).

I always kept it in tow/haul mode.

I'd suggest changing engine oil, trans fluid and filters if its been a while - and definitely change trans fluid and engine oil when you get back home.

ALSO, definitely do the pill flip in the transmission to make it run much cooler.

I did my towing in October last year, and even up and over those big grades through Northern California and Oregon, I never saw transmission temps above 184 degrees.
 

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Do you keep it in one of those gears even when going downhill? The reason why I ask is because I was told that the engine braking is disengaged when it’s in one of those gears.
The manual mode on these trucks works differently than in other vehicles, so I think that confuses people. In other vehicles, when you use manual mode and select a gear, it effectively locks the transmission into that gear. In these trucks, manual mode actually selects a range of gears, up to and including the number shown in the gear selector display. So when you select M4, the truck will choose whichever gear the computer thinks it needs, up to but not above, 4th gear. When you use tow/haul mode, it will also use engine braking and may even drop down into a lower gear on its own. You can also use the selector buttons on the descent when in manual mode to select a lower maximum gear to ensure better engine braking. Using this technique, I have had no problems descending 8-9% grades with the camper behind me, and not needing to use the brakes much, keeping them cool and ready should I need to make a sudden stop.
 

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I'd suggest changing engine oil, trans fluid and filters if its been a while - and definitely change trans fluid and engine oil when you get back home.

ALSO, definitely do the pill flip in the transmission to make it run much cooler.
^^^ This. There are YouTube videos for how to do this. The 'pill' is a thermostat that prevents the transmission fluid from flowing through the external cooler circuit until it reaches something like 195ºF. That's a problem when towing heavy because by the time the fluid heats up enough to start flowing through the cooler, you're well on your way to a fluid temperature spike. When you 'flip the pill', it allows the fluid to flow through the cooler circuit beginning at a much lower temperature, preventing thermal runaway and temperature spikes.
 

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