Weird Sporadic Combined Errors - Stabilitrak, Collision Prep, P0700 P182B - SOLVED

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Hi, all –

HERE’S THE SITUATION: :banghead:
So, the truck behaves totally fine… until it doesn’t. My question is related to the fact that these things really only happen TOGETHER. It will randomly (and increasingly, over the last several weeks) pop the traction control light. Then it might not do it for two weeks. The errors showing in the DIC are “Service Stabilitrak” and sometimes “Automatic Collision Prep Unavailable”. The latter never shows without the former. Roughly 50% of the time, it is accompanied by the check engine light. Also, roughly 50% of the time (not aligned with the CEL), “park assist not available” and the reverse cam won’t engage. When that happens, it goes into limp mode and acceleration is trash.

Turn the truck off and all is well when I start it again, most times. Other times these things persist from the last ignition cycle. Rain doesn’t seem to be a factor. No hard or extreme driving conditions.


PULLED THE CODES:
P182B “Internal Mode Switch B Circuit Low Voltage”
P0700 “Transmission Control Module Requested MIL Illumination”

Of note, trans (knock on wood) is behaving normally. I’ve recently, maybe 15k ago, done the updated fluid full change and it’s been great since. Strong, even. No hard shifting.


POSSIBLE THEORIES:
* It feels electrical, since electricity is the only thing that these things seem to have in common, and they are sporadic. Battery is two years old, and standing, load, and charging all tested “OK”, although the battery did read that it could use a recharge, as it’s reading 80%. I WFH, so it sits in my driveway and doesn’t log a lot of miles in recent years. Prob going to trickle charge it for a full day this weekend.

* So I’m starting with changing the belts, likely this weekend, although they aren’t showing signs of exhaustion, since it’s time for that anyway. Hoping the main serpentine (for alternator) belt results in more consistent voltage, even though that hasn't been a specific issue. These modern vehicles can be really finicky with voltage inconsistencies.

* I’ve also read that P0700 can often be fixed by changing the alternator even though it's testing ok, since it may have diodes that can go bad, causing TCM malfunctions. No weird trans behavior.

* Cleaning speed sensors at the wheels. While I’m sure this can’t hurt, I’m not 100% convinced since the problem is sporadic, plus wth do they have to do with Collision Prep?

* I do have an OBD2 plugin – Xineering Magride delete. I’ve unplugged this to test and it doesn’t change the behavior.




So again I am trickle charging and changing the belts, and perhaps that will correct minor voltage variances that may be the cause. I don’t want to just start replacing everything since I’d have to wait up to two or three weeks to confirm whether the issue persists, and thought I’d see if anyone here has experienced this same combination of weirdness and/or has any wisdom to share.



Thanks :cheers:
 

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MODS, PLEASE FEEL FREE TO MOVE IF THERE'S A MORE APPROPRIATE SECTION FOR THIS

Hi, all –

HERE’S THE SITUATION: :banghead:
So, the truck behaves totally fine… until it doesn’t. My question is related to the fact that these things really only happen TOGETHER. It will randomly (and increasingly, over the last several weeks) pop the traction control light. Then it might not do it for two weeks. The errors showing in the DIC are “Service Stabilitrak” and sometimes “Automatic Collision Prep Unavailable”. The latter never shows without the former. Roughly 50% of the time, it is accompanied by the check engine light. Also, roughly 50% of the time (not aligned with the CEL), “park assist not available” and the reverse cam won’t engage. When that happens, it goes into limp mode and acceleration is trash.

Turn the truck off and all is well when I start it again, most times. Other times these things persist from the last ignition cycle. Rain doesn’t seem to be a factor. No hard or extreme driving conditions.


PULLED THE CODES:
P182B “Internal Mode Switch B Circuit Low Voltage”
P0700 “Transmission Control Module Requested MIL Illumination”

Of note, trans (knock on wood) is behaving normally. I’ve recently, maybe 15k ago, done the updated fluid full change and it’s been great since. Strong, even. No hard shifting.


POSSIBLE THEORIES:
* It feels electrical, since electricity is the only thing that these things seem to have in common, and they are sporadic. Battery is two years old, and standing, load, and charging all tested “OK”, although the battery did read that it could use a recharge, as it’s reading 80%. I WFH, so it sits in my driveway and doesn’t log a lot of miles in recent years. Prob going to trickle charge it for a full day this weekend.

* So I’m starting with changing the belts, likely this weekend, although they aren’t showing signs of exhaustion, since it’s time for that anyway. Hoping the main serpentine (for alternator) belt results in more consistent voltage, even though that hasn't been a specific issue. These modern vehicles can be really finicky with voltage inconsistencies.

* I’ve also read that P0700 can often be fixed by changing the alternator even though it's testing ok, since it may have diodes that can go bad, causing TCM malfunctions. No weird trans behavior.

* Cleaning speed sensors at the wheels. While I’m sure this can’t hurt, I’m not 100% convinced since the problem is sporadic, plus wth do they have to do with Collision Prep?

* I do have an OBD2 plugin – Xineering Magride delete. I’ve unplugged this to test and it doesn’t change the behavior.




So again I am trickle charging and changing the belts, and perhaps that will correct minor voltage variances that may be the cause. I don’t want to just start replacing everything since I’d have to wait up to two or three weeks to confirm whether the issue persists, and thought I’d see if anyone here has experienced this same combination of weirdness and/or has any wisdom to share.



Thanks :cheers:
unfortunately the 8 speed is problematic and GM is facing a couple class action lawsuits because of it
I would guess the backup cam/rear park assist issue is separate- i would advise maybe inspecting the module it has been known to break loose from the plastic holder under vehicle and dangle and get all messed up or melted on the exhaust pipe or check for water intrusion, pinched wire etc.
the "P" code is known to be a harness inside the transmission
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2024/MC-10251715-9999.pdf
 
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Thanks @Doubeleive..

On the the sensor/camera thing, I checked the sensors and everything seems ok. The cam only goes out when all these errors pop at the same time so I think it’s a limp mode thing or related to the other triggers by way of possible voltage. It 100% only haps exactly when the other items occur.

That diagnostic aid sheet is super helpful; thanks. And it’s good to know that sensor is accessible by dropping the pan vs dropping the trans. I did come across some internal sensor stuff in my research but I back burnered that because it seemed near worst case scenario. But now not so much.

Have not had a chance to do the belts yet because it’s been raining last few days. Hoping to get to it this weekend.

Will update here as this takes shape.
 
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unfortunately the 8 speed is problematic and GM is facing a couple class action lawsuits because of it
I would guess the backup cam/rear park assist issue is separate- i would advise maybe inspecting the module it has been known to break loose from the plastic holder under vehicle and dangle and get all messed up or melted on the exhaust pipe or check for water intrusion, pinched wire etc.
the "P" code is known to be a harness inside the transmission
https://static.nhtsa.gov/odi/tsbs/2024/MC-10251715-9999.pdf
Def familiar with the 8 being problematic sadly. But.. I am (knock on wood) still riding my factory trans.

I see the bulletin you sent is specific to transmissions having recently been replaced. Do you (or anyone) know if this could also apply to original trans? In other words, could the original trans not have that 4 pin range sensor installed and it went bad?

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Def familiar with the 8 being problematic sadly. But.. I am (knock on wood) still riding my factory trans.

I see the bulletin you sent is specific to transmissions having recently been replaced. Do you (or anyone) know if this could also apply to original trans? In other words, could the original trans not have that 4 pin range sensor installed and it went bad?

Thanks
it was something that came up searching that specific code, so no idea to be honest. figured maybe it was something to check while in there
 
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Appreciate the response and the lead!
 

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One of your codes is related to the internal mode switch (IMS). The IMS communicates range position to the PCM and also acts as a neutral safety switch. So first thing Id do is test the mode switch to confirm or deny it's actually bad. If so, replace with an OEM Gen Motors IMS from your local dealer. You can also perform a more exhaustive electrocal diagnosis and use a bi-directional scan tool to help narrow down/rule out potential causes until you can pinpoint the sources of the issues.
 
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One of your codes is related to the internal mode switch (IMS). The IMS communicates range position to the PCM and also acts as a neutral safety switch. So first thing Id do is test the mode switch to confirm or deny it's actually bad. If so, replace with an OEM Gen Motors IMS from your local dealer. You can also perform a more exhaustive electrocal diagnosis and use a bi-directional scan tool to help narrow down/rule out potential causes until you can pinpoint the sources of the issues.
@NickTransmissions thanks for this input - the IMS was in fact the culprit - fixed, tested, and good to go!
 
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