2003 tahoe volt gauge dead, points to battery under all conditions

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Guys, I am looking at a really nice 2003 Tahoe, 5.3, 4wd. All the gauges operate correctly, except the volt meter. It appears broken, or a bad connection, as it points all the way down, straight at the battery icon. Key in or out, vehicle running or not, so I assume the guage is either broken, or has bad connection. My question is how difficult is it to get to the back of the guage, or remove it if replacement is needed? I have not bought this Tahoe yet, but this is the only problem I can see.

Thanks for your help.

yes, it's a 5.3, of course. Lost my mind for a second...okay, more than a second.
 
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Wonder if that engine is a 5.3, not a 5.8 unicorn.

Most probably -- but not 100% -- it's the gauge stepper motor that's died; it's very common. To confirm, use a scanner to read live data to see what the voltage PID reads. Hopefully no one's been into it already and ruined circuit board traces.

The cluster comes out easily enough and it can take a little work to get the cluster apart, but it's not all that difficult. Stepper motor and lighting kits can be found online. I've done one for a neighbor, and having a small pencil soldering iron and a little skill with circuit board work can help. But it's regular old circuit board work, not SMDs or anything like that. There are good YouTube videos about doing this job. I've attached the cluster connector pinout so you can power up the lighting before reinstalling. (If you do LEDs they are polarity sensitive.)

If that's not an option for you there are many online places that rebuild the clusters with all new stepper motors (do all of them while it's apart) and either replace the backlighting incandescent bulbs or upgrade to LEDs. Local places do it, too, check Craigslist, FB Marketplace, Next Door, etc. and watch for reviews. You can drive it without the cluster. Think about having them add the transmission temp gauge.

You can also buy a rebuilt cluster. For that I would recommend Digital Dash Solutions (https://www.fixmygauges.com/custom-gas-clusters.html); Carl offers some sweet clusters to buy. A reputable place will program the cluster with your mileage, and maybe even the engine hours.
 

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Wonder if that engine is a 5.3, not a 5.8 unicorn.

Most probably -- but not 100% -- it's the gauge stepper motor that's died; it's very common. To confirm, use a scanner to read live data to see what the voltage PID reads. Hopefully no one's been into it already and ruined circuit board traces.

The cluster comes out easily enough and it can take a little work to get the cluster apart, but it's not all that difficult. Stepper motor and lighting kits can be found online. I've done one for a neighbor, and having a small pencil soldering iron and a little skill with circuit board work can help. But it's regular old circuit board work, not SMDs or anything like that. There are good YouTube videos about doing this job. I've attached the cluster connector pinout so you can power up the lighting before reinstalling.

If that's not an option for you there are many online places that rebuild the clusters with all new stepper motors (do all of them while it's apart) and either replace the backlighting incandescent bulbs or upgrade to LEDs. Local places do it, too, check Craigslist, FB Marketplace, Next Door, etc. and watch for reviews. You can drive it without the cluster. Think about having them add the transmission temp gauge.

You can also buy a rebuilt cluster. For that I would recommend Digital Dash Solutions (https://www.fixmygauges.com/custom-gas-clusters.html); Carl offers some sweet clusters to buy. A reputable place will program the cluster with your mileage, and maybe even the engine hours.
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What this guy said. Stepper motors are very common. Easy fix.
 
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If you buy it and take on rebuilding the cluster, I would have a few more tips for you -- if you want them -- especially about how to tell how to get the gauge needles where they need to be.
 
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Thanks guys for (mostly) ignoring my engine blunder. I have owned many OBS and NBS trucks/suv's, but never had to work on a cluster. If I buy this Tahoe, it will be a first. Thanks for giving me some ideas, great forum.
 

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