2012 Escalade Premium Bumper
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ryanls1
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I wonder if GM was trying to do what they did with the 2500 HD diesel trucks. The stock exhaust tip lets fresh air in before it all exits the tip. Its called the duramax exhaust cooler....Not sure on GM's thinking with the design/functionality, but i like the look of the new bumpers.
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Well, I think what's happening here is an effort to freshen up what is a vehicle long past due for a full redesign update. Hard to get people excited about a truck, especially at that price point, that's essentially looked the same going 6-7 years now if you take into account the 07 was available in 06. Always by the end of a cycle things have been added one on top of other things and the whole thing looks somewhat haphazard (think windows 95>vista).
All things considered it's still a beautiful vehicle, and if the only issue with this bumper is that the exhaust doesn't connect to the tips then meh. In all likelihood there's a dozen good reasons that came up at the drawing table that we can't conceive of why it is so.
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I doubt that is what they were going for. The design of the exhaust "tip" on the duramax is designed for its function only, which is to cool the exhaust. The new diesel trucks come with a "diesel particle filter." To clean the filter the truck will occasionally "super heat" the exhaust. The tip on the new duramax trucks allows ambient air to mix with the exhaust and cool it so that it doesn't melt the paint right off the truck when it exits the pipe.
Here is some more information for you:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diesel_particulate_filter
True, but the metaphor wasn't a reference to quality ... plenty of products improve through their cycle, think OS X 10.0 > 10.7.
It was meant to indicate that throughout a product cycle a company's subsequent design/technical choices are increasingly limited and constrained by their previous ones. The only way to free themselves from that causality is a full redesign and beginning the product cycle once more from a clean slate.
In the Microsoft example, it was to note that each subsequent release of windows had to take into account all the choices of the previous ones, including running on top of DOS.
Again, imho, given these well known dynamics, I believe GM is actually doing a good job with this challenge ... have you seen what an Navigator looks like lately?
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Btw Derek, I'm not trying to talk you into liking it or trying to change your mind ... between all the brands, trims, and drivetrains, there's like 20 versions of this truck to cater to different tastes and price levels, and we all still modify our trucks to our individual tastes.
But you not liking it does not mean it is poorly executed ... it doesn't mean it isn't poorly executed. Basically your or my taste and execution are unrelated (though many have attemted to execute me for mine).
It was meant to indicate that throughout a product cycle a company's subsequent design/technical choices are increasingly limited and constrained by their previous ones. The only way to free themselves from that causality is a full redesign and beginning the product cycle once more from a clean slate.
In the Microsoft example, it was to note that each subsequent release of windows had to take into account all the choices of the previous ones, including running on top of DOS.
Again, imho, given these well known dynamics, I believe GM is actually doing a good job with this challenge ... have you seen what an Navigator looks like lately?
---------- Post added at 07:50 PM ---------- Previous post was at 07:28 PM ----------
Btw Derek, I'm not trying to talk you into liking it or trying to change your mind ... between all the brands, trims, and drivetrains, there's like 20 versions of this truck to cater to different tastes and price levels, and we all still modify our trucks to our individual tastes.
But you not liking it does not mean it is poorly executed ... it doesn't mean it isn't poorly executed. Basically your or my taste and execution are unrelated (though many have attemted to execute me for mine).
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I was just giving you crap about the Microsoft thing. Every operating system is better than Vista Hell MAC OS is better 
I see the bumper as visually appealing from a distance but a flawed design. New design doors not automatically mean it's better (Vista is a prefect example)
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I'm not saying it's flawed because I don't like it, I think it's flawed because off the reasons I already mentioned. Just so you know I strongly considered buying the bumper off Robbie but decided not because I'm a tight ass at times.
I see the bumper as visually appealing from a distance but a flawed design. New design doors not automatically mean it's better (Vista is a prefect example)---------- Post added at 06:55 PM ---------- Previous post was at 06:51 PM ----------
I'm not saying it's flawed because I don't like it, I think it's flawed because off the reasons I already mentioned. Just so you know I strongly considered buying the bumper off Robbie but decided not because I'm a tight ass at times.
Ah, you must then have the single exhaust ass option.
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Man the things you could do with twin ass exhausts ... poop in stereo for starters.
And other things too ...
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