Electric Suburban / Electric Tahoe / Yukon / Escalade EV

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Jellyfrosh

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Um you just put chargers where people park? What do I win now?

Or better yet build a parking garage as tall as you want with chargers ?

Lemme know what my prize is.
do you have any idea how insanely expensive it would be to do that?
 

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That's one of the best things. Waking up with a full tank. I think we can all say how much we hate making that morning gas station run.

And your right. No truck or car is still as efficient when new at 200k miles. Plus evs have way less to go wrong.

I think it's still less about the tech being wrong and more about people being averse to change.
How do you figure EVs have "less" to fail? In my mind they have more to fail, and I believe, although you might not agree, that they'll turn out to be money pits for the consumers as they age. That's yet to be determined of course, so, we'll see.
 

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Many people don't realize fuel prices have been at their lowest when we were energy independent and drilling here in the USA just a few years ago. We need to go back to an oil-friendly stance rather than oil-hostile!
its manipulation...
when youknowwhich administration says fuckall to the planet, drill the artic, drill the coast line, approves every single well application. oil nose dives, not because theres immediately an influx of all this new oil. oil companies manipulate the price to make it unprofitable for anyone new to get in on the game. they are literally sitting on billions and billions of dollars they can weather that storm for a few years with prices in the dirt. they would rather "lose" money than have the chance of someone coming along and taking any piece of their pie.
sure "we" benefit from the low oil prices. but all it does is starve out anyone who dares to invest in new production by tanking the price they can sell at.
 

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Many people don't realize fuel prices have been at their lowest when we were energy independent and drilling here in the USA just a few years ago. We need to go back to an oil-friendly stance rather than oil-hostile!
Why? Oil is finite. Why not use renewables? What's the issue there ? We also produce more now then ever. Even Saudi Arabia is diversifying their energy and investment portfolio.

Change is ok. Progress is ok. Nothing to be afraid of.
 

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you charge it up every night, you leave the house EVERY day with a full tank. the only time its a problem is when you get in the vehicle and travel 300+miles if youre doing that daily then sure an EV is not for you. I can argue stopping and getting gas is annoying the 5 minutes you have to spend refueling 10x a month is almost an hour of wasted time that someone with an EV doesnt have to do.

range after 200,000 miles - you think a combustible engine is still running 100% efficiency it left the factory with? EVs losing 10% sounds horrible...till you realize a truck that left the factory getting 20mpg 200,000 miles later if its still getting 18mpg thats also a 10% loss

You're right, EVs might not be for everyone, but EVs may work out fine for the average joe. The problem I see is, as time passes, it's abundantly clear that auto manufacturers hav a goal in mind to completely eliminate gas and diesel motors from the private consumer lineup, with perhaps the exception of commercial trucks and vans (although California is already getting nutty on that as well.)

When a company like Cadillac says that they want to eliminate gas motors entirely from their lineup by 2030, you know GM and Chevrolet won't be far behind. Then what, will the alternative be if no alternative is offered?
 

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its manipulation...
when youknowwhich administration says fuckall to the planet, drill the artic, drill the coast line, approves every single well application. oil nose dives, not because theres immediately an influx of all this new oil. oil companies manipulate the price to make it unprofitable for anyone new to get in on the game. they are literally sitting on billions and billions of dollars they can weather that storm for a few years with prices in the dirt. they would rather "lose" money than have the chance of someone coming along and taking any piece of their pie.
sure "we" benefit from the low oil prices. but all it does is starve out anyone who dares to invest in new production by tanking the price they can sell at.

IF you're as concerned about the planet as you post, why not sell your gas guzzling 2012 Yukon and CTS-V sports Caddy? Show us how it's done, chief. The Chevrolet Trax should suit you well.
 

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How do you figure EVs have "less" to fail? In my mind they have more to fail, and I believe, although you might not agree, that they'll turn out to be money pits for the consumers as they age. That's yet to be determined of course, so, we'll see.
Im gonna go out on a limb and say you don't understand how cars or electric motors work. There are more components in a ICE cylinder head then the whole ev vehicle. Less components less parts to fail. Electric motors are some of the simplest innovations known to man.
 

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You're right, EVs might not be for everyone, but EVs may work out fine for the average joe. The problem I see is, as time passes, it's abundantly clear that auto manufacturers hav a goal in mind to completely eliminate gas and diesel motors from the private consumer lineup, with perhaps the exception of commercial trucks and vans (although California is already getting nutty on that as well.)

When a company like Cadillac says that they want to eliminate gas motors entirely from their lineup by 2030, you know GM and Chevrolet won't be far behind. Then what, will the alternative be if no alternative is offered?
Its less about what the manufacturers want and more about emmissions and government regulations.
 

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IF you're as concerned about the planet as you post, why not sell your gas guzzling 2012 Yukon and CTS-V sports Caddy? Show us how it's done, chief. The Chevrolet Trax should suit you well.
Let's not go for personal attacks and keep it a discussion. Its more fun that way.
 
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