Folding mirrors automatically when parked?

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I have family members with mercedes that fold in automatically (S class and GL), and I own an Escalade that it has to be done manually with a button push on the arm controls. That being said, given GM quality, I prefer only to fold it in when warranted. My Escalade side mirros stopped being able to fold about 4 years into ownership. I used to fold them in frequently if I were parked at a mall or in tight spots (at work, I kept them out). The plastic gears in the inside eventually gave up. I rather not have a SUV that will fold, only to start your car, and it cannot fold back out.
 
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I have family members with mercedes that fold in automatically (S class and GL), and I own an Escalade that it has to be done manually with a button push on the arm controls. That being said, given GM quality, I prefer only to fold it in when warranted. My Escalade side mirros stopped being able to fold about 4 years into ownership. I used to fold them in frequently if I were parked at a mall or in tight spots (at work, I kept them out). The plastic gears in the inside eventually gave up. I rather not have a SUV that will fold, only to start your car, and it cannot fold back out.

That sounds like acceptance of poor quality, thus the fewer times the mirrors fold, the longer they will last.

American car companies have improved from their "I don't give a flip attitude" they use to have once union mentality took hold.
However once foreign (and especially ***) companies started kicking their rears and everyone was buying Japanese, they improved.
Still we need to exceed if not meet the standard of Japanese companies if our auto industry is to grow, much less survive.
Sadly (as seen by some apologists in this thread) American companies are given cover with poor rational as to why our products do not meet a higher standard.

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That sounds like acceptance of poor quality, thus the fewer times the mirrors fold, the longer they will last.

American car companies have improved from their "I don't give a flip attitude" they use to have once union mentality took hold.
However once foreign (and especially ***) companies started kicking their rears and everyone was buying Japanese, they improved.
Still we need to exceed if not meet the standard of Japanese companies if our auto industry is to grow, much less survive.
Sadly (as seen by some apologists in this thread) American companies are given cover with poor rational as to why our products do not meet a higher standard.

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I agree with you. He have accepted poor American quality. And so much so, the Japanese brands build their cars in American to those same poor standards. Hence I will never own an American made Honda after a long line of honda's in the family. Once things started breaking in my sister 06 honda accord, I knew the quality was poor, and my transmission was replaced 5 times in my 2001 Acura TL. My infiniti G35 was great, but was built in Japan (you can tell by the J beginning to the VIN number). And my friends Acura TSX is a champ with over 230k miles with just reg maintenance (also made in Japan unlike the TL and Honda vehicles). My wife's 2014 RDX blew a head with a stuck valve within 3k miles of ownership.

The only reason I drive domestic (last two cars were Escalades, and had a tahoe before that). Is of all the American built cars, I trust the LS based motors. Though the small bits on the car may fail, the motor will last long enough to get me to 100k miles when I'll buy another car.

If we want American cars to be great again, they have to be built great again. Problem is, ACROSS the board, with ALL mass manufacturers, they are built to a price point. To maximize profits, they are only willing to invest so much, Plus they DO NOT WANT to make a car last forever. They purposely choose parts with a certain life cycle. They don't make money unless they sell you a car, and they need you to buy a new car every few years.
 
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I agree with you. He have accepted poor American quality. And so much so, the Japanese brands build their cars in American to those same poor standards. Hence I will never own an American made Honda after a long line of honda's in the family. Once things started breaking in my sister 06 honda accord, I knew the quality was poor, and my transmission was replaced 5 times in my 2001 Acura TL. My infiniti G35 was great, but was built in Japan (you can tell by the J beginning to the VIN number). And my friends Acura TSX is a champ with over 230k miles with just reg maintenance (also made in Japan unlike the TL and Honda vehicles). My wife's 2014 RDX blew a head with a stuck valve within 3k miles of ownership.

The only reason I drive domestic (last two cars were Escalades, and had a tahoe before that). Is of all the American built cars, I trust the LS based motors. Though the small bits on the car may fail, the motor will last long enough to get me to 100k miles when I'll buy another car.

If we want American cars to be great again, they have to be built great again. Problem is, ACROSS the board, with ALL mass manufacturers, they are built to a price point. To maximize profits, they are only willing to invest so much, Plus they DO NOT WANT to make a car last forever. They purposely choose parts with a certain life cycle. They don't make money unless they sell you a car, and they need you to buy a new car every few years.

Funny how we experienced similar situations. For about a decade we were leasing Acura's when they were made in Japan. Then one year we were on the lot looking at a new one and the salesman said only to lease an imported one.
I asked why, and he said build quality.
The lot had both, so he put two of them together as a comparison, but didn't say which was which. He asked me to pick out which one I thought was made in Japan vs. here in the states. It took me all of 20 seconds to see the difference in the paint, hood alignment, etc.

All my Subs over the years have gone deep into the 100k mileage without a single engine/transmission failure.
However the cheap materials and lack of features compared with *** imports is astounding.
How they got away with it for so long is beyond understanding. What ever happened to our attention to details and engineering?
I know unions had a lot to do with it, but where is the skill, pride, and quality control?

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