Gel/sludge in oilpan

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Please HELP me make since of all this! Anyone and everyone!

Not sure what you want us to do/. Looks like you have some good advice already. You can run some transmission fluid with the oil for a bit to help clean up the sludge.

or take it apart and clean it up.
 
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Not sure what you want us to do/. Looks like you have some good advice already. You can run some transmission fluid with the oil for a bit to help clean up the sludge.

or take it apart and clean it up.

It is great advice! Forsure, but im mainly trying to figure out the whole antifreeze in the synthetic oil gelling up, because if that is true then cleaning it out isnt going to help anything, im really trying to figure out if its a cracked block, cracked or warped heads or as simple as a head gasket, just hoping someone here has had experience with this situation! Thanks again for all the info!
 

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I`m not saying it`s impossible to happen but every time i have worked on an engine with a blown head gasket where antifreeze leaked into the engine and we drained the pan what came out was always a very thin light colored chocolate milkshake looking mess. I have no clue if it can gel up like you described.
 
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I`m not saying it`s impossible to happen but every time i have worked on an engine with a blown head gasket where antifreeze leaked into the engine and we drained the pan what came out was always a very thin light colored chocolate milkshake looking mess. I have no clue if it can gel up like you described.

See im like you! It has always been milky! Mine isnt milky at all, but from what i have read a slow coolant leak (cracked block and or head) causes glycol contamination, which raises the oil viscosity which forms a thick gel this is where i read that information from!
http://www.machinerylubrication.com/Read/28863/glycol-contamination-engine-oils
Im really not sure about all this, i know i have been losing water, but no visual leaks unless, its evaporating before it hits the ground! Thanks again for all the information everyone
 

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How you are explaining it, it sounds like you have a head gasket leak. A pic of the sludge would tell a lot. The color and how thick it actually looks. I second pulling off the valve covers and seeing whats going on in there. If you have a coolant leak then it will show in there all white and sludge like as well. Then with those off you can clean all the excess sludge from inside as well if you don't see the white build up.

Another myth but i have seen it actually happen is using fully synthetic oil in high milage engines is a bad idea. The synthetic oils will cause new leaks or cause small leaks to be bigger or cause sludge to break up which causes the other two. If you do suspect its a gasket leak you may be able to buy some time with the liquid additives but not long.

All this may help or it may be a dead end. Diagnosing takes a bit of time and experience. There are other test to do for head gasket leaks do some online searches and you can find them but most of the time if it clucks like a duck and walks like duck it most likely a duck. Good luck hope you get it figured out.
 

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I didn't experience this with my 165k 6.0 that I just replaced but... I do have a friend at work that had replaced his 5.3 four years ago. He temporarily lost oil pressure the other day while driving. After investigating he found his pan full of sludge. He attributes it to only short drives and I attribute it to that plus running conventional oil. After running a flush and getting the sludge out his pressure normalized
 
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How you are explaining it, it sounds like you have a head gasket leak. A pic of the sludge would tell a lot. The color and how thick it actually looks. I second pulling off the valve covers and seeing whats going on in there. If you have a coolant leak then it will show in there all white and sludge like as well. Then with those off you can clean all the excess sludge from inside as well if you don't see the white build up.

Another myth but i have seen it actually happen is using fully synthetic oil in high milage engines is a bad idea. The synthetic oils will cause new leaks or cause small leaks to be bigger or cause sludge to break up which causes the other two. If you do suspect its a gasket leak you may be able to buy some time with the liquid additives but not long.

All this may help or it may be a dead end. Diagnosing takes a bit of time and experience. There are other test to do for head gasket leaks do some online searches and you can find them but most of the time if it clucks like a duck and walks like duck it most likely a duck. Good luck hope you get it figured out.

Thank you for this ill defiantlytake a loom into this, luckly i have 2 tahoes so ill leave this one parked for a lil while and do some investigating!

I didn't experience this with my 165k 6.0 that I just replaced but... I do have a friend at work that had replaced his 5.3 four years ago. He temporarily lost oil pressure the other day while driving. After investigating he found his pan full of sludge. He attributes it to only short drives and I attribute it to that plus running conventional oil. After running a flush and getting the sludge out his pressure normalized

Thank you for this too! I'll definitely run some more flush thru it one i check underneath the valve cover thank you for this informationa
 

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I didn't experience this with my 165k 6.0 that I just replaced but... I do have a friend at work that had replaced his 5.3 four years ago. He temporarily lost oil pressure the other day while driving. After investigating he found his pan full of sludge. He attributes it to only short drives and I attribute it to that plus running conventional oil. After running a flush and getting the sludge out his pressure normalized


must be driving like a granny, lol

but also yes if you put cheapo oil in your engine, what to do you expect to happen.
 
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must be driving like a granny, lol

but also yes if you put cheapo oil in your engine, what to do you expect to happen.

Lol i hear ya! But to everyone that is curious to the problem i am/was having! It was cracked heads! Causing the oil to gel! I have just tore one head off and it is horrible, it has castech heads on it ant they were both cracked at the center head bolt! Just letting everyone know!1468634917504-1463399171.jpg

Imside the valve covers
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Where pushrods go into block

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