Good news: GM is developing a new Gen VI small block V8

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Hopefully they'll figure out a better way to save fuel than DFM this time. It's good news because despite their marketing about the future being all electric, at least someone there realizes that for a huge portion of their customer base, electric won't work with the technology and infrastructure we're likely to have by 2030. And it seems that V8-powered large SUVs are selling better than turbo V6's are.
 

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Hopefully they'll figure out a better way to save fuel than DFM this time. It's good news because despite their marketing about the future being all electric, at least someone there realizes that for a huge portion of their customer base, electric won't work with the technology and infrastructure we're likely to have by 2030. And it seems that V8-powered large SUVs are selling better than turbo V6's are.

"Of the $854 million, $579 million will go to GM's Flint engine plant, which will machine blocks, cranks, and heads, and assemble the complete unit; $216 million will go to the Bay City, Michigan plant, which will build camshafts and connecting rods, and machine blocks and heads; $47 million will go to the Defiance, Ohio plant, which will make block castings; and finally, $12 million will go to the Rochester, NY plant, which will build intake manifolds and fuel rails."

They broke down where all the money is going, but not who will make the LIFTERS.
 
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"Of the $854 million, $579 million will go to GM's Flint engine plant, which will machine blocks, cranks, and heads, and assemble the complete unit; $216 million will go to the Bay City, Michigan plant, which will build camshafts and connecting rods, and machine blocks and heads; $47 million will go to the Defiance, Ohio plant, which will make block castings; and finally, $12 million will go to the Rochester, NY plant, which will build intake manifolds and fuel rails."

They broke down where all the money is going, but not who will make the LIFTERS.
Those will be outsourced/3rd party
 

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I live near defiance amd the local paper had an article and it said the defiance plant was getting 55 million. Maybe some of that is coming from elsewhere.
 

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"Of the $854 million, $579 million will go to GM's Flint engine plant, which will machine blocks, cranks, and heads, and assemble the complete unit; $216 million will go to the Bay City, Michigan plant, which will build camshafts and connecting rods, and machine blocks and heads; $47 million will go to the Defiance, Ohio plant, which will make block castings; and finally, $12 million will go to the Rochester, NY plant, which will build intake manifolds and fuel rails."

They broke down where all the money is going, but not who will make the LIFTERS.
Possible maybe they go away from single cam/pushrod and do a DOHC design that can implement the lifters differently, something like Honda's V-TECH, or maybe the way MB does it...hard to know how they will do it, but since it is an "all new design" possibly it will implement DFM in a different and more reliable way. They clearly know the weaknesses of this design...hard to imagine them not trying to address it in this new design. Lots of ways to skin the cat of not opening the valves on a given rev...time will tell.
 
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If they do that it wouldn't be a Gen VI LS, it'd be a Gen 1 something.

They should just give up on AFM/DOD or whatever they want to call it. It really doesn't make that much difference in fuel economy
 

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Hopefully they'll figure out a better way to save fuel than DFM this time. It's good news because despite their marketing about the future being all electric, at least someone there realizes that for a huge portion of their customer base, electric won't work with the technology and infrastructure we're likely to have by 2030. And it seems that V8-powered large SUVs are selling better than turbo V6's are.
 

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You always want a normally aspirated engine. They will last at least twice as long as anything turbo charged. My friend that works at a Chevrolet dealer reports that electric cars are not selling very well. However, he reports people are "panic buying" anything with a normally aspirated V-8 engine.
 
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You always want a normally aspirated engine. They will last at least twice as long as anything turbo charged. My friend that works at a Chevrolet dealer reports that electric cars are not selling very well. However, he reports people are "panic buying" anything with a normally aspirated V-8 engine.
I agree with this. If you own a Ford EcoBoost V6 right now, and it needs either timing or turbo components (common), you're going to be waiting a while. The parts have been on national backorder for months. They can't make enough to supply the demand. It seems almost impossible to have a set of chain-driven DOHC timing components that will last the life of the vehicle. They always need tensioners, guides, cam phasers, etc at some point in their lifetime.
 

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