Help with Tahoe Problems

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So I bought a 96 hoe a couple of weeks ago, and all of a sudden it pulled to the right real bad and heard clunks. I found out my right upper ball joint almost broke (according to mechanic he's never seen a tire have that much play). Anyways they say I need all 4 new ball joints, plus tie rods and idler arm/ idler Arm bracket, they want $1800 for all the work(includes pads and rotors as they said the pads were thin) My question is am I being took on price? I am thinking I got took on the purchase as the tailgate wont open (previous post) abs light is on and fuel guage doesnt work. I also think I have a antifreeze leak as my resevoir goes empty and radiator get low after about a week. Mechanic also found multiple leaks which I am not 100% concerned with right now. Sorry for the long post I am just frustrated at myself for not finding the front end issues/ all the leaks when I test drove it and also frustrated with the seller as I think I just wasted $2500 on a lemon car and my state does nothing on used cars past 3 days of ownership. I can not work on the truck myself right now as I have no access to a garage and theres snow on the ground.
 

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What's the mileage on the thing? $1800 is a big chunk of change. I could walk around a 5 year old low mileage car and suggest $1800 worth of repairs in ten minutes. If the brakes are not an immediate safety concern have them provide a separate estimate for them. Ask for minimum and actual thickness specs on the rotors. Call around for prices on "pads and rotors". It's usually standard menu pricing at most shops plus the cost of the rotors.
Did this shop give or even offer a written estimate? Anyway, for a shop to just say, "yup you need a bunch of front end parts" is pretty unprofessional. No shop should charge for a front end inspection, with few exceptions. Aside from the usual putting the vehicle in jounce and moving and prying on components, a good shop will be able to provide and compare actual specs versus maximum specs on the various front end parts. It may be the obvious case though that some of your parts are actually falling off as the truck rolls on to the lift. It happens.

It could also be that multiple ball joints are bad, as well as some other components. If a vehicle has one bad front end part it's usually fine to replace it and move on. However, if the front end has a ton of miles on it and they only replace one or two parts it's likely that you will then feel slop or run out from the older existing parts now which would be no fault of the shops other that they didn't properly diagnose and suggest the correct repairs. It may also be the case that due to other worn front end components they may not be able to align the vehicle. If a shop refuses to do only part of a job, it's usually for a good reason. Liability. If they only do part of a job and let the vehicle roll in an unsafe condition, they are liable. Same thing with brakes. If you go in for brake pads and they show you a leaking caliper or out of spec rotors they likely won't just slap new pads on. Some shops however will recommend replacing everything just to cover their butts, or they just see $$ coming. Brakes and front end tend to get oversold quite a bit, thus my suggestion to get at least a second opinion. You may be surprised as to the difference in the estimates.
So while you may get an estimate for pretty much everything, just make sure they explain what and why. It's your money, you deserve a competent written estimate. Also, ask to have the technician show and explain everything on the estimate. A good tech will have no problem not only selling the proper repairs but themselves as well and that's quality.
If any shop only wants to give you a "guesstimate", run. Ask if the technician is ASE certified.

Your mileage may vary...
 
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My mileage is about 144,786 miles. Originally I took it in to have the ABS light diagnosed and thats how they found everything, I did have them show me and you can move the wheels around (up down and side to side) on both sides. The tie rods and idler arm and pitman arm all had busshings/boots that were torn and there was play in them. I did get them down with me purchasing all the parts through rock auto for about 500 something (all Moog parts brakes are Raybestos parts) and labor will be $850 with tax and everything. I am still disappointed that what I thought was a great truck turns out needing all this work. They also said multiple things were wet with fluid(tranny, motor, transfer case, and pinions) but they did not completely diagnois those plus I figured the leaks can wait for warmer weather when I can pull off the whole shade tree mechanic deal and do it myself. I guess on the positive side Ill have a brand new front end!
 

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Meh....what can you do? Whoever sold it probably didn't want to deal with it anymore. Anything can be fixed with enough money though. Look at it this way, what would a truck with a reasonably tight front end and new brakes cost anyway? At least you'll be getting some warranty along with this. Make sure they replace the bearings while they are in there. Also, ask them to check the center link. Hopefully these guys are combining some labor where possible, like with the brakes. The wheels and front end will be off anyway so maybe they can charge just for the parts, otherwise it's double labor. If not then tell them that you will do the brakes yourself.
You've basically bought a blank canvas. Anything you do to it as far as repairs and upgrades will make it that much more yours. Get some pics posted.
 

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