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Small update:

Don got his bypass done. 6-1/2 hrs in surgery but everything went very well. Ended up with a pretty mean scare. 58 staples and 12 stitches.
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He spent 3 nights in hospital and on the 4th day I still wasn’t in any shape to help bring him home from hospital. Pulled that ace out on another good friend and he came thru for me. Don’s son also showed up so it worked out.

No real updates on the Esky but I did manage to sit at my welding table and start on another project that I need to get done.
The kids go-kart. For some reason they keep breaking the intake off. The weight of the carb shouldn’t be causing this but it’s the 3rd time it’s happened. The part is only $10, $12 I think shipped is what I paid but I’m not gonna keep doing this. So I decided to make my own.
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It’s a pretty tight center line radius and I don’t have a die and roller with that small of a CLR. I looked around and all my 3/4” pipe had a thicker wall so I decided to use some 3/4” rigid conduit. It’ll be stronger that cast aluminum part that keeps breaking. If this doesn’t work I’ll go to a heavier wall pipe.
So how do we get a tight CLR without bending? Pie cutting is the only way I know how. So I started off by measuring the diameter of the pipe, multiply that by pie (3.14) and we get the length around the diameter of the pipe. Divide that by 2 and that’s the radius. You can also cheat and not do the math by taking a piece of paper and wrapping the pipe, cut it so the paper butts against each other and then fold it in half to use as a template to mark your lines. But I’m a math guy so I always just figure out the measurements.
Here’s the pipe with the lines marked. One on each side, perfectly opposite each other.
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Next step is cutting the pie shapes. 4.5* and 9* transition angle is the most commonly used. That’s because at 9* you can hit all the common angles. 45*, 60*, 90*, 180*, you get the idea. I decided to go 9* cuts to keep it less seams to weld. Make your 9* cut then 9* in the opposite direction. Instead of switching the angle of the blade, I just rotated the pipe 180* for the next 9* cut.
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So you end up with a piece that’s 18* total angle. Simple math tells us that 10 of these will give us 180*. We only need 90* so 5 pieces will get us there. I cut 8 pieces because this intake is a little more than 90*.
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If you line up the line you made on the pipe, it makes a perfect angle. I ended up using 7 pieces plus the end pieces that have 9* on one side and straight on the other.
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Then I transferred the mounting flanges to some 1/4” flat stock.
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Then proceeded to tack weld the pieces together and cleaned it up with flat disk.
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Still have some more welding and cleaning to do but you can see the inside is a smooth transition, no kinks like you would get from trying to bend on such a tight radius.
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I’ll post finished product when I get a few minutes to finish it up. Bottom line, it’s gonna be stronger and match original piece. And I’m also thinking about getting rid of this Chinese carb and going to a Walbro in the near future and that will be as easy as cutting off mounting flange and welding a new one on that matches the new carb.




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Small update:

Don got his bypass done. 6-1/2 hrs in surgery but everything went very well. Ended up with a pretty mean scare. 58 staples and 12 stitches.
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He spent 3 nights in hospital and on the 4th day I still wasn’t in any shape to help bring him home from hospital. Pulled that ace out on another good friend and he came thru for me. Don’s son also showed up so it worked out.

No real updates on the Esky but I did manage to sit at my welding table and start on another project that I need to get done.
The kids go-kart. For some reason they keep breaking the intake off. The weight of the carb shouldn’t be causing this but it’s the 3rd time it’s happened. The part is only $10, $12 I think shipped is what I paid but I’m not gonna keep doing this. So I decided to make my own.
b4097a34f6cc73403dff621cb21b6380.jpg
e508ed9f4435a2a58745c9d3d5d7a367.jpg


It’s a pretty tight center line radius and I don’t have a die and roller with that small of a CLR. I looked around and all my 3/4” pipe had a thicker wall so I decided to use some 3/4” rigid conduit. It’ll be stronger that cast aluminum part that keeps breaking. If this doesn’t work I’ll go to a heavier wall pipe.
So how do we get a tight CLR without bending? Pie cutting is the only way I know how. So I started off by measuring the diameter of the pipe, multiply that by pie (3.14) and we get the length around the diameter of the pipe. Divide that by 2 and that’s the radius. You can also cheat and not do the math by taking a piece of paper and wrapping the pipe, cut it so the paper butts against each other and then fold it in half to use as a template to mark your lines. But I’m a math guy so I always just figure out the measurements.
Here’s the pipe with the lines marked. One on each side, perfectly opposite each other.
acdf90bcd9a76f8ad849b46fe00fe592.jpg


Next step is cutting the pie shapes. 4.5* and 9* transition angle is the most commonly used. That’s because at 9* you can hit all the common angles. 45*, 60*, 90*, 180*, you get the idea. I decided to go 9* cuts to keep it less seams to weld. Make your 9* cut then 9* in the opposite direction. Instead of switching the angle of the blade, I just rotated the pipe 180* for the next 9* cut.
b64c6e190321a5575ca84ff51fc23a46.jpg

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So you end up with a piece that’s 18* total angle. Simple math tells us that 10 of these will give us 180*. We only need 90* so 5 pieces will get us there. I cut 8 pieces because this intake is a little more than 90*.
bd5231cdd9c18d15852df4709d002a95.jpg

If you line up the line you made on the pipe, it makes a perfect angle. I ended up using 7 pieces plus the end pieces that have 9* on one side and straight on the other.
c6faf58197968efbd78ee8f932b84138.jpg

Then I transferred the mounting flanges to some 1/4” flat stock.
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Then proceeded to tack weld the pieces together and cleaned it up with flat disk.
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Still have some more welding and cleaning to do but you can see the inside is a smooth transition, no kinks like you would get from trying to bend on such a tight radius.
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I’ll post finished product when I get a few minutes to finish it up. Bottom line, it’s gonna be stronger and match original piece. And I’m also thinking about getting rid of this Chinese carb and going to a Walbro in the near future and that will be as easy as cutting off mounting flange and welding a new one on that matches the new carb.




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My neighbor's kid's kart kept breaking the same piece in the same manner. His FIL TIG'ed it back together then added a 1"x.125" flat bar to make a brace to support the carb and it never broke again. It's gotta be the weight of the carb on the low-quality cast manifold. Yeah, the carb isn't very heavy, but on a cart with no suspension, I guess the shocks from riding on rough terrain travel up and to that weak point.
 

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Small update:

Don got his bypass done. 6-1/2 hrs in surgery but everything went very well. Ended up with a pretty mean scare. 58 staples and 12 stitches.
82766e36b8d2a0750e1f756d29fc808a.jpg


He spent 3 nights in hospital and on the 4th day I still wasn’t in any shape to help bring him home from hospital. Pulled that ace out on another good friend and he came thru for me. Don’s son also showed up so it worked out.

No real updates on the Esky but I did manage to sit at my welding table and start on another project that I need to get done.
The kids go-kart. For some reason they keep breaking the intake off. The weight of the carb shouldn’t be causing this but it’s the 3rd time it’s happened. The part is only $10, $12 I think shipped is what I paid but I’m not gonna keep doing this. So I decided to make my own.
b4097a34f6cc73403dff621cb21b6380.jpg
e508ed9f4435a2a58745c9d3d5d7a367.jpg


It’s a pretty tight center line radius and I don’t have a die and roller with that small of a CLR. I looked around and all my 3/4” pipe had a thicker wall so I decided to use some 3/4” rigid conduit. It’ll be stronger that cast aluminum part that keeps breaking. If this doesn’t work I’ll go to a heavier wall pipe.
So how do we get a tight CLR without bending? Pie cutting is the only way I know how. So I started off by measuring the diameter of the pipe, multiply that by pie (3.14) and we get the length around the diameter of the pipe. Divide that by 2 and that’s the radius. You can also cheat and not do the math by taking a piece of paper and wrapping the pipe, cut it so the paper butts against each other and then fold it in half to use as a template to mark your lines. But I’m a math guy so I always just figure out the measurements.
Here’s the pipe with the lines marked. One on each side, perfectly opposite each other.
acdf90bcd9a76f8ad849b46fe00fe592.jpg


Next step is cutting the pie shapes. 4.5* and 9* transition angle is the most commonly used. That’s because at 9* you can hit all the common angles. 45*, 60*, 90*, 180*, you get the idea. I decided to go 9* cuts to keep it less seams to weld. Make your 9* cut then 9* in the opposite direction. Instead of switching the angle of the blade, I just rotated the pipe 180* for the next 9* cut.
b64c6e190321a5575ca84ff51fc23a46.jpg

4224dae27ffebabc73ae77d4e778a1ae.jpg


So you end up with a piece that’s 18* total angle. Simple math tells us that 10 of these will give us 180*. We only need 90* so 5 pieces will get us there. I cut 8 pieces because this intake is a little more than 90*.
bd5231cdd9c18d15852df4709d002a95.jpg

If you line up the line you made on the pipe, it makes a perfect angle. I ended up using 7 pieces plus the end pieces that have 9* on one side and straight on the other.
c6faf58197968efbd78ee8f932b84138.jpg

Then I transferred the mounting flanges to some 1/4” flat stock.
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Then proceeded to tack weld the pieces together and cleaned it up with flat disk.
ee235c67b63725302be73ae89d7faa37.jpg


Still have some more welding and cleaning to do but you can see the inside is a smooth transition, no kinks like you would get from trying to bend on such a tight radius.
6549ebb02cb26427d1d86c92439383e7.jpg


I’ll post finished product when I get a few minutes to finish it up. Bottom line, it’s gonna be stronger and match original piece. And I’m also thinking about getting rid of this Chinese carb and going to a Walbro in the near future and that will be as easy as cutting off mounting flange and welding a new one on that matches the new carb.




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Did I miss something? Who's Don, and that's one hell of a scar!
 
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My neighbor's kid's kart kept breaking the same piece in the same manner. His FIL TIG'ed it back together then added a 1"x.125" flat bar to make a brace to support the carb and it never broke again. It's gotta be the weight of the carb on the low-quality cast manifold. Yeah, the carb isn't very heavy, but on a cart with no suspension, I guess the shocks from riding on rough terrain travel up and to that weak point.

My brother added a brace from carb mounting flange to a bolt on the head after the first one broke. It wasn’t the best support because there’s no way to get a straight up and down brace on it. It was more angled and proved to not add any support. But your right, it’s just a cheap cast part and I thought about adding a backbone to the new part but I just wanted to get it running again for the kids knowing I’d just make my own this time. But I want to put another carb on it. This carb doesn’t have any mixture adjustment, just an idle. It’s a cheap carb. But the cart does have suspension and I softened it as much as possible without bottoming out but it’s when the kids come off this little side hill and jump just a little. It’s broke same spot every time.



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Forgot to mention, again how my luck works, on August 4th I’m laid up from my back and the wife tells me the dryer quit working. It gets hot but doesn’t turn. Wtf!!
While in pain barely able to stand I pulled the dryer out and removed little cover from the back. The damn belt broke!! Ordered the belt, tensioner, idler wheels for drum with the axles, and a new squirrel cage fan. Figured if I’m gonna go into it I wanna make sure I have all the parts. Good ole Amazon, parts showed up on the 7th. So I fought thru the back pain and pulled the dryer apart.
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Took me longer to clean the dust and lint out of the thing than it did to actually do the repairs. Back up and running and I really think she hates that I fix this crap because I think her heart was set on getting a new dryer. But I gotta say, it’s quieter than it’s ever been and works great once more. No new dryer for you!!
The washer did the same thing to me 3 days before Xmas. Wouldn’t turn. I pulled it apart and it ended up being in the transmission and it would have cost $400 to replace the transmission. I ordered one from Sears as they were going out of business and had it delivered on the 3rd or January. So she did get a new one out of me that time.
It’s always something and it never ends!!


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Forgot to mention, again how my luck works, on August 4th I’m laid up from my back and the wife tells me the dryer quit working. It gets hot but doesn’t turn. Wtf!!
While in pain barely able to stand I pulled the dryer out and removed little cover from the back. The damn belt broke!! Ordered the belt, tensioner, idler wheels for drum with the axles, and a new squirrel cage fan. Figured if I’m gonna go into it I wanna make sure I have all the parts. Good ole Amazon, parts showed up on the 7th. So I fought thru the back pain and pulled the dryer apart.
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Took me longer to clean the dust and lint out of the thing than it did to actually do the repairs. Back up and running and I really think she hates that I fix this crap because I think her heart was set on getting a new dryer. But I gotta say, it’s quieter than it’s ever been and works great once more. No new dryer for you!!
The washer did the same thing to me 3 days before Xmas. Wouldn’t turn. I pulled it apart and it ended up being in the transmission and it would have cost $400 to replace the transmission. I ordered one from Sears as they were going out of business and had it delivered on the 3rd or January. So she did get a new one out of me that time.
It’s always something and it never ends!!


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Got a call from work on Saturday, my only day off, and my only day to get caught up on yard work, south quarry pump suction line surfaced, “we need you”!
WTF, why am I the only one that handles this shit? But of course, my dumb ass goes in.
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I’m not sure how air gets in to the suction line that’s 20-30’ under water in the first place. The pump has a flapper valve (check valve) in front of it so that should prevent anything from reverse flowing.
So I get to work and they tell me the Pioneer pump was so hot they couldn’t even touch it and the Grundfo pumps were off.

Pioneer pump
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Grundfo pumps
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Thankfully the pump seems to be ok, I always said I think they are built from recycled Sherman tanks. But for some reason the belts flipped over, just on the pump side.
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So first thing I did was replace the belts with new. Adjusted tension and replaced cover. Then I used the north quarry pump pressure to flood the suction line for this south pump trying to push the air back out the line. Pushed a lot of air out but couldn’t get it all out.

So I go to crank up the north quarry pump and notice the inside of the pump house is soaked.
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Oh crap! The discharge from the pump is breached and has a leak. Now I have to get south pumps going again because this isn’t gonna last too much longer. This pipe is old and about rusted through.
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Now I know I have a lot of the air pushed out, I flooded the Pioneer pump and went to fire it up. It’s locked out from the maintenance guy that was there earlier and didn’t try flooding and sinking the suction, just applied lock out tag out and left. So I go hunt down the lock box so I can get key to the lock that’s on the electrical panel. Find the box, get key and open box, empty!! So I send him a text.
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He went home with key in his pocket. Thankfully nobody was around at work. It’s an act of Congress to get a lock off a piece of equipment without a key. I pulled out the master key (bolt cutters) and removed lock.
Fired up the Pioneer and it was taking forever to pull the air out. But I was finally able to sink the suction line.
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Tomorrow (Monday) the divers will be coming out to make sure there is no damage to line and add a few supports. The representative from the pump manufacturer will be out to help find root cause of air getting into suction causing it to surface. It’s gonna be a great start to the week. But the good news is, I’m back on days starting tomorrow.



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