Is a cold air intake gonna help my RST in any way state your opinion

[BigBlueLB756]

Here's my MIT. It's just for show and I lost that underhood writing desk by installing it. But I feel better.



If you do get one, make sure it has a lid instead of being open to any underhood heat.

 

[WillCO]

Some of those CAI’s generated >25hp gains with zero tuning.

A) I don't think so
B) Even if true, you won't feel a 25hp increase on a 360hp engine at all. Figure how much the CAI cost you, and it gets really pointless.

 

[cardude2000]

A) I don't think so
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What part of their process do you doubt?


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[WillCO]

What part of their process do you doubt?


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To massively oversimplify, I don't believe that OEM intakes are inefficient enough to be starving engines of oxygen such that a $300 bolt-on modification would increase performance more than trivially and with no negative consequence. If it were that easy and inexpensive to do, the car makers would do it.

Here's a post about cold air intakes that is not written by someone trying to sell them.

 

[Doubeleive]

What part of their process do you doubt?


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it's pretty well known that CAI does little to nothing at all without other supporting mods such as porting the the throttle body and intake and tuning the computer to take advantage of a little extra air. One thing it does do is change the sound because the OEM intakes are designed to be quieter. Like Will said go take a good look at the unbiased test's that been performed over and over. Even blackbear did testing on all the big name brands and posted results up (along with the requirements needed to make them actually do something).

 

[cardude2000]

it's pretty well known that CAI does little to nothing at all without other supporting mods such as porting the the throttle body and intake and tuning the computer to take advantage of a little extra air. One thing it does do is change the sound because the OEM intakes are designed to be quieter. Like Will said go take a good look at the unbiased test's that been performed over and over. Even blackbear did testing on all the big name brands and posted results up (along with the requirements needed to make them actually do something).

The blackbear tests show 20+ hp gains

 

[cardude2000]

To massively oversimplify, I don't believe that OEM intakes are inefficient enough to be starving engines of oxygen such that a $300 bolt-on modification would increase performance more than trivially and with no negative consequence. If it were that easy and inexpensive to do, the car makers would do it.

Here's a post about cold air intakes that is not written by someone trying to sell them.

But what part of the blackbear testing process do you disagree with?

 

[Doubeleive]

The blackbear tests show 20+ hp gains

They also show that tunes were required, that is why it shows all the results having KR and etc without tuning

 

[cardude2000]

They also show that tunes were required, that is why it shows all the results having KR and etc without tuning

The HP results they show are WITHOUT tunes...

 

[WillCO]

But what part of the blackbear testing process do you disagree with?

The implication of objectivity.

It's hard for me to take at face value tests run by companies selling the products they are testing. There are myriad ways for a tester to subtly apply his thumb to the scale. Further, I've never seen an objective third party test that confirms the kind of performance gains we typically see from CAI manufacturers and distributors. Although I concede I've not spent tons of time looking.