New Onstar Agreement Update email

[domin8]

And just how many people in this thread, that give a damn, happen to have a cell phone or mobile gps unit. Just don't be caught acting stupid. Additionally, don't talk to police if they start to investigate you. As for why you shouldn't talk to police, go to YouTube and search Don't Talk To Police. Look for the video that is 48 minutes long. It's from a law professor at Regents University in Virginia Beach, Virginia. There's also a surprise at ~ 27:30 when a Virginia Beach Police Detective starts talking.

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[THE YETI]

Personal privacy? It seems like they are stalking you like if you were a deer.

what USC code is that tho... I'm looking for specific law.

 

[ChevyFreak]

I usually steer clear of these opinionated conversations, but I feel as though I need to present my case-in-chief. Frankly, I don’t really care if they are tracking me, or collecting data from my vehicle. I have nothing to hide! The government, and likewise, the police, can find out a lot more about someone from ones activity online and all those “connected” devices they use, then what Onstar gathers from their vehicle. The amount of times that I have used Onstar in an emergency situation far outweighs the idea of them collecting some form of data. Let them do it if they want to, just don’t bother me about it.

And just how many people in this thread, that give a damn, happen to have a cell phone or mobile gps unit. Just don't be caught acting stupid. Additionally, don't talk to police if they start to investigate you.

I would have to agree with you here. Every device we use these days seems to somehow be "connected" to everything else. Unless you want to live in fear under a rock for the rest of your life, you're just going to have to face this fact. Going along with the second part of your post - I think the other point to make is that everyone should simply know their constitutional rights.

 

[soulsea]

Meh ...

 

[readyman]

ChevyFreak, This wasn't supposed to be a BigBro, neurotic, opinionated, political thread, just want to stick to the topic of the 'Agreement' update, and maybe what owners are doing.

I've had OnStar since it became available, and I don't keep my bus/pers vehicles for more than a couple/few years. But now, for the first time I'm looking at my 3 ton Tahoe that can and WILL be used against me whether I agree to 'self incrimination' or not. Guilty until proved innocent, Tahoe held harmless.

After all. To criticise OnStar is to criticise the very 'Heartbeat of America', OnStar being owned by GM being owned by the UAW being owned by (better quit while I'm ahead).

I usually steer clear of these opinionated conversations, but I feel as though I need to present my case-in-chief. Frankly, I don’t really care if they are tracking me, or collecting data from my vehicle. I have nothing to hide! The government, and likewise, the police, can find out a lot more about someone from ones activity online and all those “connected” devices they use, then what Onstar gathers from their vehicle. The amount of times that I have used Onstar in an emergency situation far outweighs the idea of them collecting some form of data. Let them do it if they want to, just don’t bother me about it.



I would have to agree with you here. Every device we use these days seems to somehow be "connected" to everything else. Unless you want to live in fear under a rock for the rest of your life, you're just going to have to face this fact. Going along with the second part of your post - I think the other point to make is that everyone should simply know their constitutional rights.

 

[jdskycaster]

Buy a used one then. I did, and did not get any onstar "update" from GM although I know they can still track my vehicle.

Always humorous to me that stories along the lines of crap like this always center around how an innocent person was convicted through no wrong doing on their part. Never any stories about how the combination of the amber alert system and gps tracking allowed for the capture and prosecution of a child abductor.

I can live with a few solicitations if it means we can catch even one additional dirtbag like this.

JD

 

[stevek]

I wonder if there is a way to remove some wires from the connector to disable collection of certain data

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after reading that ******** summary, the scales are definitely tipping towards trading in the Denali...

 

[Gzes]

Just follow the wires on the onstar unit and unplen em all

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Unplug

 

[stevek]

I want some way to recalibrate my car so it thinks it has huge wheels/tires (so it thinks it's going twice as fast as it is)

 

[soulsea]

Just follow the wires on the onstar unit and unplen em all

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Unplug

Mmm, unplugging on star won't achieve much ... look up EDR if you really want to understand how this works.

http://www.popsci.com/cars/article/...quire-cars-black-boxes-record-driver-activity
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2011/05/automotive-black-boxes/
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Event_data_recorder
http://www.roadandtravel.com/safetyandsecurity/2006/blackbox.htm