Disclaimer: Links on this page pointing to Amazon, eBay and other sites may include affiliate code. If you click them and make a purchase, we may earn a small commission.

OP
OP
R

Ryat242

TYF Newbie
Joined
Feb 4, 2025
Posts
11
Reaction score
3
160-170 is ideal but Dex 6 can handle 200-215ish no problem so if you're consistently seeing 185ish and it stays that way throughout the summer months then it's fine. The 6L80 in my GMC Sierra doesn't get hotter than 175-180 which is perfect for most automatic transmissions. Keep an eye on the TEHCM, IMS and speed sensors if you didn't replace them...The IMS doesn't go bad very often but the other two do fail more frequently once mileage on them gets north of 200k...


You're welcome and thank you for watching my videos - appreciate the support and recs ! Congrats on your first rebuild.
So to go into a little deeper, I rebuilt the trans around 3 months ago, drove it and it was doing this issue then too. So that’s when I did the bypass and cooler, when it didn’t change I got worried I had installed a seal incorrectly or perhaps had knicked something when doing the install. So I bought another gasket/seal kit and tore it back open. Of course all the frictions and steels were in fine shape. I inspected everything and found nothing broken or installed incorrectly. Not knowing what the issue was, I just resealed it back up and here we are now. My question is, if something were bypassing causing heat is there anything in the valve body that could cause it? I made sure all the check balls were where they were supposed to be and torqued all the bolts to specs so I was confident in it, but now knowing all the seals are fine and nothings broken, its got me wondering. When I closed it back up this last time I didn’t touch the valvebody because I knew everything was correct. Have you ever seen that or heard of a valve body causing an issue like this? I have 2 spare core transmissions with good valvebodies in them, would it be worth it to rebuild one of those and stab it in?
 

Geotrash

Dave
Supporting Member
Joined
Feb 16, 2018
Posts
6,621
Reaction score
16,654
Location
Richmond, VA
So to go into a little deeper, I rebuilt the trans around 3 months ago, drove it and it was doing this issue then too. So that’s when I did the bypass and cooler, when it didn’t change I got worried I had installed a seal incorrectly or perhaps had knicked something when doing the install. So I bought another gasket/seal kit and tore it back open. Of course all the frictions and steels were in fine shape. I inspected everything and found nothing broken or installed incorrectly. Not knowing what the issue was, I just resealed it back up and here we are now. My question is, if something were bypassing causing heat is there anything in the valve body that could cause it? I made sure all the check balls were where they were supposed to be and torqued all the bolts to specs so I was confident in it, but now knowing all the seals are fine and nothings broken, its got me wondering. When I closed it back up this last time I didn’t touch the valvebody because I knew everything was correct. Have you ever seen that or heard of a valve body causing an issue like this? I have 2 spare core transmissions with good valvebodies in them, would it be worth it to rebuild one of those and stab it in?
Question: When you plumbed in the new cooler did you keep the oil-to-water cooler in the radiator end tank in the loop, or did you just go straight to the 40K? I'm asking because you'll see much higher temps without that radiator end tank in the loop. I know this first-hand.
 
OP
OP
R

Ryat242

TYF Newbie
Joined
Feb 4, 2025
Posts
11
Reaction score
3
Question: When you plumbed in the new cooler did you keep the oil-to-water cooler in the radiator end tank in the loop, or did you just go straight to the 40K? I'm asking because you'll see much higher temps without that radiator end tank in the loop. I know this first-hand.
I bypassed the radiator all together. Going straight from the trans to the cooler and back. Is that what you mean?
 
OP
OP
R

Ryat242

TYF Newbie
Joined
Feb 4, 2025
Posts
11
Reaction score
3
Uh
That's the problem. Plumb it through the radiator then out to the aux cooler .
What’s the thinking on this? Trust me I believe you guys. And I’ll try anything, is the fluid moving too fast to actually cool it? Or is the radiator cooler that efficient? I noticed yesterday that the faster you go, the quicker it builds heat. About a 20 minute interstate ride and the temps didn’t start to drop until i got off and went to a slower speed. And it cooled the best when it was sitting at a stop? Is this due to rpm and the thus making the fluid go faster through the aux cooler?
 
OP
OP
R

Ryat242

TYF Newbie
Joined
Feb 4, 2025
Posts
11
Reaction score
3
When I installed the cooler I couldn’t for the life of me find a video or thread taking about the best way to hook it up so I winged it. My thinking was that the trucks radiator sat at 210 once warm and I wanted the fluid to be cooler than that. Haha. Scientific I know.
 

NickTransmissions

Sin City
Supporting Member
Joined
Mar 9, 2023
Posts
1,176
Reaction score
2,858
Location
The transmission bench
Uh

What’s the thinking on this? Trust me I believe you guys. And I’ll try anything, is the fluid moving too fast to actually cool it? Or is the radiator cooler that efficient? I noticed yesterday that the faster you go, the quicker it builds heat. About a 20 minute interstate ride and the temps didn’t start to drop until i got off and went to a slower speed. And it cooled the best when it was sitting at a stop? Is this due to rpm and the thus making the fluid go faster through the aux cooler?
You're way over thinking this...Fluid is a much more efficient heat exchanger than air so by eliminating the fluid's travel through the radiator's internal transmission cooler, you've cut your cooling efficiency by at least 50% or so....
 

73Vetteman

Member
Joined
May 30, 2015
Posts
56
Reaction score
37
Curious if slipping torque converter or clutch packs are creating excess heat.
Did you run the adaptives to adjust clutch pack apply pressure after your rebuild?
Have you disabled DOD? There is more converter slip when DOD is active. Also try driving in tow/haul mode to see if that helps.
 

NickTransmissions

Sin City
Supporting Member
Joined
Mar 9, 2023
Posts
1,176
Reaction score
2,858
Location
The transmission bench
Curious if slipping torque converter or clutch packs are creating excess heat.
Did you run the adaptives to adjust clutch pack apply pressure after your rebuild?
Have you disabled DOD? There is more converter slip when DOD is active. Also try driving in tow/haul mode to see if that helps.
In his case, neither - it's the lack of or inefficient heat exchange due to bypassing the internal radiator trans cooler. If the clutch in the converter and/or those in the trans were slipping, they would def be adding to the excessive temp condition...
 

73Vetteman

Member
Joined
May 30, 2015
Posts
56
Reaction score
37
Others are correct to plumb cooler lines into radiator cooler first, then into auxiliary cooler. Reason for this is that radiator temperature is never hotter than engine temperature and usually much cooler. After being cooled in radiator your auxiliary cooler will further reduce oil the temperature.
Most agree that using the newly revised thermostat is better than the bypass. The revised thermostat with GM part number ending in 933 opens at a lower temperature than the original. The thermostat only brings oil up to its operating temperature of 70 degrees C. After that it free flows oil to cooler. It won’t provide more or less cooling during hot spells. Especially important in cooler climates. The updated thermostat is about $40 on eBay or Amazon. The GM part number ends in 933.
 

Forum statistics

Threads
133,498
Posts
1,886,408
Members
98,684
Latest member
richdives
Top