thanks for all the pics everyone. like i said, tomorrow im gonna go see my normal mechanic and see what he thinks about them. maybe he can fix it and put the headers on as well. im really hoping that he can spot a problem and fix it. if these end up not working, im gonna see if LPP will let me exchange them (with money back to me) for their racing shorty headers. they should fit exactly where the stock manifolds were right? i know long tubes are much better, but some extra HP is better than no extra HP right? i was gonna do a cat delete with the shorties as well