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So. Y'all aren't going to believe this. I wouldn't either, I should've taken pictures.

Everyone knows the coolant bypass for the throttle body?

Well the previous owner apparently did not, not correctly anyway. Instead of pulling both lower hoses and connecting them, he used the vacuum hose on top and connected it to the coolant hose..... Yup, true freaking story.

Now you're probably asking yourself;

"How did this idiot (me) not know of this earlier?"

After realizing the mistake, instead of putting things where they belonged they put a cheap hose clamp with what looked to be a larger hose inside to cavitate the line. The screw portion rusted off, and then BAM! Free flowing coolant directly into my passenger side valve cover, and me checking compression and standing there clueless as everything is perfect.

Crisis avoided, flushed the engine and coolant system today, bypassed properly, put my vacuum line back on where it should've always been and we're back in business!!!
Oh my God that's unreal.....


Once fixed, I'd do numerous oil changes on it. Hardly worth fussing with the filter. Just crack it loose to drain the passages and snug her back up. Get the cheapest stuff the parts store has to offer. Doesn't matter viscosity. Just make sure it's a detergent oil of some sort.

Drain and fill, run for 60 seconds. Do it again. Do it again, but run for 5 minutes. Do another, 5 minutes at 2k to 2.5k rpm. Do another, but now drive it on the freeway. Put a little load on it. Nothing major, just someghing to get your internal Temps up. Come back, then change your oil and filter. Run that for 500 miles, change again at 1500, then you can resume your normal oil change routines

I know that many drain and fills sounds melodramatic, but coolant contamination absolutely ruins the lubricity of the oil. Based on my own info from a Subaru I used to own, there's a measurable uptick in wear with coolant contamination in the 60ppm range. Yes, 60 parts per million. That's 0.006%. Not sure why it's so damaging, if it's the glycol or silicate or something else in the coolant, but it takes an astronomically small amount. So you want to make sure you get all the stuff out. Unfortunately, the milkshake goodies have a tendency to stick to the internal surfaces pretty well and it's a bit reluctant to come out, hence the drain and fill cycles.


P. S. At risk of sounding complacent: I don't feel like discussing anyone's opinions on this method with anyone other than OP. I've gotten into enough pissing matches on various forums as of late and just don't care for another multi page debate. Take the info or leave it. I can run through the math and quantify it with lab tests, so no, my mind will not be changed. My only goal is to help OP get an appropriate service life out of his vehicle, not bicker with sideliners
 
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Oh my God that's unreal.....


Once fixed, I'd do numerous oil changes on it. Hardly worth fussing with the filter. Just crack it loose to drain the passages and snug her back up. Get the cheapest stuff the parts store has to offer. Doesn't matter viscosity. Just make sure it's a detergent oil of some sort.

Drain and fill, run for 60 seconds. Do it again. Do it again, but run for 5 minutes. Do another, 5 minutes at 2k to 2.5k rpm. Do another, but now drive it on the freeway. Put a little load on it. Nothing major, just someghing to get your internal Temps up. Come back, then change your oil and filter. Run that for 500 miles, change again at 1500, then you can resume your normal oil change routines

I know that many drain and fills sounds melodramatic, but coolant contamination absolutely ruins the lubricity of the oil. Based on my own info from a Subaru I used to own, there's a measurable uptick in wear with coolant contamination in the 60ppm range. Yes, 60 parts per million. That's 0.006%. Not sure why it's so damaging, if it's the glycol or silicate or something else in the coolant, but it takes an astronomically small amount. So you want to make sure you get all the stuff out. Unfortunately, the milkshake goodies have a tendency to stick to the internal surfaces pretty well and it's a bit reluctant to come out, hence the drain and fill cycles.


P. S. At risk of sounding complacent: I don't feel like discussing anyone's opinions on this method with anyone other than OP. I've gotten into enough pissing matches on various forums as of late and just don't care for another multi page debate. Take the info or leave it. I can run through the math and quantify it with lab tests, so no, my mind will not be changed. My only goal is to help OP get an appropriate service life out of his vehicle, not bicker with sideliners


Didn't go quite as in depth as you say, but I did run thirty quarts of the cheapest walmart stuff through it. Ten through inital drain, ten after it idled for about fifteen minutes, and ten driving it around for a little bit (needed dip and more oil). Lol. I changed the filters each time because I had a few wix filters laying around the house and I don't use wix so it was a good way of getting rid of them.

I still plan to drop the pan on it, gasket is leaky anyway so just another excuse for me to replace a few gaskets.
 

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You could also use an internal cleaner like Kreen from Kano Labs and then send an oil sample to Blackstone Labs after you’re all done to see if anything is still contaminating the oil.

Should do both these things anyways, imo. Put the Kreen in with 500-1000 miles left on your OCI. Don't take your Blackstone sample from that change. Use the next one.
 

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the old bypass the tb coolant hose. gain 50 hp because the tb is now magically not getting as hot because it doesn't have coolant flowing through it. and 1 in worth of metal somehow has enough air surface contact to effect the iat enough to cause anything......
ya i bypassed mine once on the side of the road when a line blew.
 

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the old bypass the tb coolant hose. gain 50 hp because the tb is now magically not getting as hot because it doesn't have coolant flowing through it. and 1 in worth of metal somehow has enough air surface contact to effect the iat enough to cause anything......
ya i bypassed mine once on the side of the road when a line blew.
Yes tremendous hp gains lol.
 

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