gbleezy
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Hey 1astrsk, you got 6K or higher?
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Ok let me straightin this out a bit. I agree he was cool with lettin me go but the way he talked to me was a bit outta line. He came from up behind me and was starting to pass me then let off and lit me up, never saw the front of my yuk just the glow. I'm not hatin on all LEO just this one . I work pretty close with most of the sherriifs dept. but our city cop cops like to flex there muscle even well outta the city limits.
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Gbleezy- i was runnin 6k 35watt in factory housing
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Gbleezy- i was runnin 6k 35watt in factory housing
Its good PC to pull you over is all. Oh and they can go out of their "jurisdiction" all they want. Most cops are State Certified Peace Officers. They can enforce the law even outside city limits.
What brand HID's were you running? Some tend to glow a little blue, which is also illegal.
What brand HID's were you running? Some tend to glow a little blue, which is also illegal.
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back when I had my Mustang I had 6k HID's and got pulled over for them once people would always flash me, I have had them in my Tahoe for 2years now and have HID's in the lows and Silverstar's in the highs and have had zero problems
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I have also seen plenty of people running HID's and even those Silverstar Ultra bulbs, (which is what I run) that never think to readjust them. So when you are traveling down the road they completely blind drivers coming the other way. I have seen what should be great looking headlights and fogs pointing in all kinds of directions making the vehicles look like total crap, but more importantly being a hazard.
Also, I know locally, although "technically" illegal to run anything not stamped with DOT #'s, etc. As long as you aren't running bright blue or other color lights that make it completely obvious you have HID's they pretty much leave you alone.
Also, I know locally, although "technically" illegal to run anything not stamped with DOT #'s, etc. As long as you aren't running bright blue or other color lights that make it completely obvious you have HID's they pretty much leave you alone.
96ProCompTahoe
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if you can find them (no longer produced) TYC made a DOT LEGAL HID set-up that ran $250. have them on my hoe with them aimed a little down.
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I have a set of their DOT legal replacement tail lights in the Dmax, they even come with a little card to show the cops if you are pulled over. Funny how most things that fit what we need, etc are no longer produced...lol
Guys, a lot of you don't understand what DOT certification means and how it relates to HIDs.
DOT certification isn't issued by the government, it's a self certification process that the manufacturers do to certify that their parts are within certain parameters. The DOT does not certify anything, although they might randomly test manufacturer certified parts.
Furthermore the DOT isn't the agency in charge of federal law in this regard, the laws are within the NHTSA jurisdiction and enforcement of said laws via state/local law enforcement, and where applicable safety inspectors (state inspection).
This is all to say that so far as the NHSTA and the law is concerned, modifying your vehicle's original critical lighting from halogen to HID, even if done with DOT certified parts, does not satisfy the law ... in fact, even we who retrofit our headlights with stupid expensive OEM parts/projectors, are still illegal. So even if I properly installed an OEM Escalade projector in my Denali, I am breaking the law.
Now the chances of me getting pulled over with an OEM retrofit on my Denali is actually less than if I drove a stock Escalade, and that's because Escalade projectors are famous for being aimed too high from factory. And since my bulbs are 4300K to 5000K, my beam is confined and aimed properly, the chances of me getting hassled for them is almost nil.
Still, as far as the law is concerned my $1500 oem setup is as illegal as sticking a crappy $50 PnP kit in stock reflectors ... difference is I not only see better, but I don't blind anyone in the process.
And on a side note ... can we please drop the whole 'I've been driving around for x time and haven't been flashed' argument? Glare is not the same as having your highs on (for which someone gets flashed), it's just disturbing/hazardous to oncoming traffic ... you might not get flashed but you're still being a nuisance to others and putting light in places which don't help you see. Not to mention it's an invitation for a leo to pull you over.
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Here's some nice light reading:
http://fmvss108.tripod.com/fmvss108text.htm
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/glare.html
PS. Individual states often have additional laws regarding HID and automotive lighting in general. All of the above is only federal, your state's laws may be even more stringent ... and their enforcement of said laws subject to budgetary needs and number of accidents in which vehicles with illegal HIDs are involved.
DOT certification isn't issued by the government, it's a self certification process that the manufacturers do to certify that their parts are within certain parameters. The DOT does not certify anything, although they might randomly test manufacturer certified parts.
Furthermore the DOT isn't the agency in charge of federal law in this regard, the laws are within the NHTSA jurisdiction and enforcement of said laws via state/local law enforcement, and where applicable safety inspectors (state inspection).
This is all to say that so far as the NHSTA and the law is concerned, modifying your vehicle's original critical lighting from halogen to HID, even if done with DOT certified parts, does not satisfy the law ... in fact, even we who retrofit our headlights with stupid expensive OEM parts/projectors, are still illegal. So even if I properly installed an OEM Escalade projector in my Denali, I am breaking the law.
Now the chances of me getting pulled over with an OEM retrofit on my Denali is actually less than if I drove a stock Escalade, and that's because Escalade projectors are famous for being aimed too high from factory. And since my bulbs are 4300K to 5000K, my beam is confined and aimed properly, the chances of me getting hassled for them is almost nil.
Still, as far as the law is concerned my $1500 oem setup is as illegal as sticking a crappy $50 PnP kit in stock reflectors ... difference is I not only see better, but I don't blind anyone in the process.
And on a side note ... can we please drop the whole 'I've been driving around for x time and haven't been flashed' argument? Glare is not the same as having your highs on (for which someone gets flashed), it's just disturbing/hazardous to oncoming traffic ... you might not get flashed but you're still being a nuisance to others and putting light in places which don't help you see. Not to mention it's an invitation for a leo to pull you over.
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Here's some nice light reading:
http://fmvss108.tripod.com/fmvss108text.htm
http://www.nhtsa.gov/cars/rules/rulings/glare.html
PS. Individual states often have additional laws regarding HID and automotive lighting in general. All of the above is only federal, your state's laws may be even more stringent ... and their enforcement of said laws subject to budgetary needs and number of accidents in which vehicles with illegal HIDs are involved.
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Gzes
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Man my hids saved my ass today.... Driving at 3am and almost ***** a deer. If I had halogens I woulda never seen it coming . About legality tx doesn't care and right now im in nm and they don't care ether so it just depends on the cop Bro
Yup, that's just about right.
At the end of the day 99% of leo couldn't care less what you have in your headlights as long as you're not glaring everywhere and aren't sporting colored beams. Most cops I know, like most other people, don't even know what a retro is.
But if your lights aren't right, even if you have completely stock halogens but misaligned, you will sooner or later get shit for it ... and rightfully so. It's a headlight, not a gobo.
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Oh and here's something for you obs guys that can be achieved for $250 or so with a little effort: http://www.hidplanet.com/forums/showthread.php?44285-1998-GMC-K2500-quot-HID-retro-on-the-cheap-quot
He's just getting started but looks to me like it might be a thread worth following.
My high horse is now tired ... peace!
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