do you remember the ticket I got up there? anyway I went to pay it online and it wouldn't come up in the system, so I called the courthouse up there to see if i could pay it over the phone, they couldn't find it either so they told me to send a copy of it to them, so I mailed a copy to them, they sent me a letter back all courthouse stamped up and everything and said the cop never turned it in or it was lost and that since 30 days or 60 days whatever the time limit was had passed that basically the officer would have to ticket me again in person and that I didn't have to pay it and it wouldn't be on my driving record. lol