Running wires through seat for headrest DVD player

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SirAthos

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Hi all,

I just got a pair of aftermarket headrest DVD players for my 2007 Denali.
I'm trying to install them in the second row headrests, and have to run the wires through the seat.

For that, I have to somehow get the back of the seat opened. :893Chainsaw-Smilie-
I got as far as taking the original headrests off and unsnapping the top layer of the seat back and looking at a metal plate. It seems to be held in place by some plastic anchors which are holding the plate to material wrapping from the front.

What's the best way to open the metal plate without losing the plastic snaps? Or, what's the best way to run wires through the seat? :boxed:

(The wires come out of the headrest rods, so I can't run them between the metal plate and the leather cover, since the seat holes for the rods have guides going all the way under the plate).
 

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I'm thinking you can attach a guide rod (coat hanger or something long enough to go all the way to the bottom of the seat) to the wires, insert that threw the opening where the headrest rods go in, guide it through the inside of the metal plate and then follow it with the head rest rods...

Or I might be way off with that, but I'm pretty sure that's how it's usually done
 
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That's a great idea. I'll try it out. Thanks!

I think last time when I was probing around in the seat, the guides for the headrest rods felt like they had something at the bottom - they were not open ended. If that's the case, the wire guide might not work...
 

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That's a great idea. I'll try it out. Thanks!

I think last time when I was probing around in the seat, the guides for the headrest rods felt like they had something at the bottom - they were not open ended. If that's the case, the wire guide might not work...

did it work? Just wondering for future install...
 

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The seat backs on the front buckets have push clips,two on each side and two at the bottom. The top has two guides.that slide into guide slots. You must start at the bottom and then the sides. You need to push in on the clip to get it to release. I used a putty knife. I took mine off to look at the reason the seat backs were sliding down about one inch. Someone had previously tried to take them off an had bent the bottom pieces so they wouldn't stay tight. Will require new seat backs to correct. Someone has posted a pictoral on running wires thru the seat backs. Might be on the Chevy forum. It's not hard, just need to be careful not to bend the push clips.
 
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did it work? Just wondering for future install...

It did! The idea was genius.
Sorry about the delay, I was quite busy lately and only got to try it last weekend.

Here's some insight from personal experience:

1. The holes for the headrest have metal guide rods, which are open ended and push into the back seat foam.

2. You can stick a (solid, hard) wire through the guides all the way down, if you push carefully you won't poke the foam but slide between the foam end the metal seat plate.

3. Since the metal plate is bent at the bottom, you'll have to stick your hand between the foam and the plate to find the hard wire - shouldn't be far inside if you pushed it enough.

From here, you can attach whatever you want to the hard wire and pull it from the bottom.

Now, the caveats and warnings:

1. The metal plate is SHARP on the inside. And since the foam is pushing up against it, sticking your hand between the foam and the plate should be done very carefully (especially when twisting or pulling your hand back out). I managed to scrape my skin several times.

2. The metal plate is not flat - it has some indentions inside, to which the foam is cut to shape. I assume those are to make the plate sturdy. Anyway, because of those, the hard wire might not be as easy to push through all the way down. Also, putting wiring inside might disturb the way the foam matches the metal plate.

3. Once you stick the hard wire through the holes and guides, there might not be enough room left for whatever you are actually trying to get through. In my case, the headrest wires have connectors at the end which are almost as big as the hole itself, and it was a very tight fit once the hard wire was also in there.

4. The guide rods are sharp as well. If you decide that you need to get the headrest wire back out (for instance because you forgot to slide some plastic part onto it first), DO NOT PULL ON THE WIRE. It will strip the insulation and, if you keep insisting, it will cut through the actual wires inside. Those are usually thin enough that you will need to solder them under a microscope, or get new wires altogether.

5. Speaking of plastic parts - the headrest has a round rod and a "marked" rod, which is useful for height stops. Matching that are two little round plastic parts you should have saved from the original headrest. One has a push-in mechanism to release the spring and raise or lower the headrest. Make sure you slide those plastic parts MATCHING the rods, onto the new headrest's rods BEFORE inserting the wires in the seat. I swapped the two parts out accidentally and realized too late. And yes, I stripped the wire when pulling it out. :)

6. If your arm is just the right combination of long, thin and strong, you don't need a hard wire. In fact, I found it easier this way: insert headrest wires in the whole until they hit the foam (at the bottom of the metal guides). Then, stick your hand from the bottom of the seat, between the metal plate and the foam. With some insistence, you will be able to reach all the way up to where the guide rods end, grab the wire and pull it down. Same thing for the other rod, if you need to pull two wires.

7. Unless you're good at fishing wires and inserting metal rods at the same time, plan on having somebody to help you with actually inserting the headrest in the guides while you're fishing both wires at the same time from the inside of the seat (assuming both headrest rods have wires sticking out, as was my case).

Hope this helps. If there is interest, I may also post some drawings to illustrate all of this.
 

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