Some guidance needed

[wjburken]

They'll get the bulletin to me Monday. Comment was it's a obscure one.

Comments in the service notes are:
Verifies customer concern, while scanning vehicle on drive test found the fault comes and goes while driving, / GM Tech assistance found camshaft is " walking" an engine causing cam correlation, misfires, oil pressure fluctuations, repair is to replace engine as bearings are pressed into block and labor cost to repair exceed new engine replacement cost.

Anyone able to confirm having to replace cams bearings pressed into block exceeding engine replacement cost?

Depending on how deep they have to go, I can see the labor costs putting into the same amount of money as a replacement.

If you look at the time to pull the motor, tear it down so they can remove/repair/replace the cam bearings and then reassemble the motor and then reinstall it verses pulling a motor and reinstalling a motor, the extra cost of the motor vs the extra labor to repair it can easily be a wash on cost.

If you can do the work yourself, that might shift the equation. You also need to consider the 200K you have on the motor.

 

[Doubeleive]

they must be factoring a lot of labor, my new 6.2l factory motor cost was $9,999 that price included a new water pump and a motor mount

 

[wjburken]

they must be factoring a lot of labor, my new 6.2l factory motor cost was $9,999 that price included a new water pump and a motor mount

Only comparison I have is when I put a crate 6.2 in my 2007. Repair estimate was $5000 and no warranty on labor and 1 year on parts vs $6000 for a crate motor with 100,000 mile parts and labor warranty. That was 7 years ago.

It would have been cheaper to go with the repair but for $1000 more I got a new motor and a better warranty.

 

[Doubeleive]

Only comparison I have is when I put a crate 6.2 in my 2007. Repair estimate was $5000 and no warranty on labor and 1 year on parts vs $6000 for a crate motor with 100,000 mile parts and labor warranty. That was 7 years ago.

It would have been cheaper to go with the repair but for $1000 more I got a new motor and a better warranty.

Mine came with a 3yr 100k warranty, fortunately I only had to pay a fraction of that because I was under 3rd party warranty, I would never have paid that much if it had been all out of pocket

 

[swathdiver]

Anyone able to confirm having to replace cams bearings pressed into block exceeding engine replacement cost?

An engine has to be completely disassembled to replace the camshaft bearings. Replacing an engine with another is 12.2 hours of labor. Rebuilding an engine is 34.7 hours and that includes rebuilding the heads. Actual labor rate for each camshaft bearing is 30 minutes labor.

If you're looking at a new LC9 or a used one any version from 2010-2014 will work. The 2007-2009 LC9 motors do not have VVT.

The current price for my older style is about $4200 with a $2500 core charge plus labor and fluids.

 

[iamdub]

I'd hit up car-part.com and find the best deal on a used one and swap it in.

 

[avalonandl]

I'd get a used engine...

 

[thompsoj22]

If it is camshaft bearing wear as suspected than you are probably at the crossroad of sinking 5-7k$ in repairs for a "new" engine doing it yourself, camshaft bearings are buried deep in the LS block. as stated above 10k$ to have someone else do the work which to me is an absolute deal breaker!. Clean her up,drain the oil, leave the filter and throw in some 40 wt dino oil, reset the code prior to getting out of the car at the dealer trade her in. I dont pretend to imply that finances will allow this option but if you dont do your own labor, high milage cars can bleed you out. I do not condone this method selling to private party but with the high milage the dealer will wholesale it for sure.

 

[swathdiver]

If in his shoes, I'd rebuild the engine myself. It's been a long time and I thoroughly enjoyed building motors.

 

[Scum]

Thanks all. I'm looking at getting a used engine. Seeing some for 3500-ish. Good enough to squeeze some more miles out of it. Engine swap is a lot easier than a rebuild in my opinion.