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kardez

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Another year has gone by and I had to replace the purge solenoid again to pass inspection. I'm asking again if anybody has seen this problem before. Usually, after a few months, the check engine light comes on. this time it took only a couple weeks. I referred to it before, but I think it is temperature related. When it drops to 60 degrees outside it starts to tripping!!! Does anyone know anything about the tank pressure switch or something like that that is mounted next to the tank?? I read that somewhere but can't remember exactly what it was. ANY info or tips would be very appreciated. Thanks
 
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P0449. I am replacing the purge solenoid every year to pass inspection. I don't know what scan tool is used by my mechanic and at autozone, but it comes back the same code at both places.
 

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if you were to get a tuned pcm you could have the codes deleted and never see em again, and pass inspection.

i got a regal gs with 24 codes i deleted with my tuner, evap, egr, cat, rear o2. all deleted. i pass inspection like a boss every time.
 

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Your mechanic should have a better tool than Autozone, he should be able to do this test and determine why you keep having to replace it, it could be your ECM or a bad wire somewhere.

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1. Ignition ON, engine OFF, command the EVAP vent solenoid ON and OFF with a scan tool.
2. Listen for a click when the valve operates. Verify that both the ON, and the OFF states are commanded.
3. Operate the vehicle within the Conditions for Running the DTC. You may also operate the vehicle within
the conditions that you observed from the Freeze Frame/Failure Records data.
CIRCUIT/SYSTEM TESTING
1. Ignition OFF, disconnect the harness connector at the EVAP canister purge or vent solenoid valve.
2. Ignition ON, verify that a test lamp illuminates between the voltage supply circuit terminal A and ground.
 If the test lamp does not illuminate, test the voltage supply circuit for a short to ground or an
open/high resistance. If the circuit tests normal and the voltage supply circuit fuse is open, test or
replace the EVAP canister purge solenoid.
3. Connect a test lamp between the voltage supply circuit terminal A and the control circuit terminal B.
4. Command the EVAP canister purge solenoid valve to 50 percent with a scan tool, or the EVAP canister
vent solenoid valve ON and OFF. The test lamp should respond to the command.
 If the test lamp is always ON, test the control circuit for a short to ground. If the circuit tests
normal, replace the ECM.
 If the test lamp is always OFF, test the control circuit for a short to voltage or an open/high
resistance. If the circuit tests normal, replace the ECM.
5. If all circuits test normal, replace the appropriate solenoid valve.
 
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Wow!!! this is the most specific information I have received in the three years I have been chasing this problem. Thank you very much, sir. I will let you know how it goes.
 
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No, Mr. "took all of 5 seconds" my google/youtube is not broken!!!! been through all of that and have replaced ALL of the EVAP system parts... some, a couple of times. This has been going on for three years and we still have not found the problem. Has been looked at by different shops and people and we have also smoked the system and shows no leaks... Not to forget two new tank caps from GM. so, if you have nothing new besides the University of Youtube/Google, thanks, but no thanks.
 

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Can all this stuff be thrown in the garbage and turned off in the tune? The first thing we did way back when was rip out all those vacuum lines, the air pump, etc., cap them off and toss the charcoal canisters in the trash and put breathers on the valve covers. They then ran better and got better mileage.
 

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thats the idea of deleting those types of un needed things from the tune, to remove them, or just leave it all there with the codes deleted, cap off its lines and your golden.

when deleted your deleting every code associated with that sensor, not just the one your getting, theres no or low voltage for each, aka when its unplugged. my evap in the regal was a good 12 codes to fully delete, rear o2 was 4, egr was also 3, cat was 1. all these deleted codes show "ready" asap when you clear your codes. no waiting for them to become ready ever. only thing in my tune that has to wait is my up stream o2, cause i need that one to work right.

if you do have a evap leak somewhere it can be messing with your fuel trims.

my regals was messing with my ltft's bad. once its port was capped off at the tb my trims became way more stable and then i could actually do some tuning with a oz of faith.

if you wanted to dive in tuning a hpt tuner is only about 500, or less if you buy a used one. yes theres a hell of a learning curve, but hp has a pretty good forum with real techs helping you out as well as many people with tons of good info to be had. theres tunes you can get and copy over, aka would be like a canned tune, but you can fine tune it to your truck, if you ever mod it your a step up already owning a tuner. tranny tune would likely wake it up good too. was my first tuning i did when i got my tuner. at least its some thing you can feel right away.

all this maf tuning and such you dont always feel it, but knowing its running where it really should be is always good. and hp really does a lot of the work for you these days, scan then graph it, then hit a smooth button, and done. where my old ass dhp ( works on w bodys only) i got i need to look at the scan cells and make the changes myself. takes longer, more work, but it works. old school crap lol
 

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