Strike??? Thoughts, insights, predictions.

[Blackcar]

Maybe our 23 turned 24 will turn into a 25 now. More to time to keep setting money aside I guess.

I am a member of a union, although it’s a fairly weak one. I don’t think the union would go away, but they could take some big hits like losing arbitration. If you look at the statistics of how many Americans live paycheck to paycheck with no savings account, record CC debt, ect I really think the manufacturers have the upper hand this time. If statistics are correct about 90% of the workers on strike can’t make it a month without going in the hole.

We have a Suburban on order (only deposit paid no allocation yet) and my worry is a bitter workforce coming back to the assembly line and building shit vehicles.

Have to watch how we vote.

 

[Polo08816]

Maybe our 23 turned 24 will turn into a 25 now. More to time to keep setting money aside I guess.

I am a member of a union, although it’s a fairly weak one. I don’t think the union would go away, but they could take some big hits like losing arbitration. If you look at the statistics of how many Americans live paycheck to paycheck with no savings account, record CC debt, ect I really think the manufacturers have the upper hand this time. If statistics are correct about 90% of the workers on strike can’t make it a month without going in the hole.

We have a Suburban on order (only deposit paid no allocation yet) and my worry is a bitter workforce coming back to the assembly line and building shit vehicles.

Same.

 

[randeez]

i dont think the end game is to be like "welp boys, they told us to go fk ourselves. sorry get back to work" strikes dont just happen spur or the moment, this has been voted on within the union, they all knew it could result in weeks/months and as a collective they agreed it was worth it. when youre already barely scraping by paycheck to paycheck you really dont have much to lose and a few months of inconvenience could change your entire financial future because right now the future looks even shittier if they dont. either they negotiate pay/benefits that both can agree to or they have to be willing to walk away.

 

[Polo08816]

i dont think the end game is to be like "welp boys, they told us to go fk ourselves. sorry get back to work" strikes dont just happen spur or the moment, this has been voted on within the union, they all knew it could result in weeks/months and as a collective they agreed it was worth it. when youre already barely scraping by paycheck to paycheck you really dont have much to lose and a few months of inconvenience could change your entire financial future because right not the future looks even shittier if they dont. either they negotiate pay/benefits that both can agree to or they have to be willing to walk away.

But even if they negotiate better pay, what is the loss amount for not having worked for however long while they are on strike? (Obviously, the assumption is that they wouldn't have been able to get better jobs.) There may be a point where the income loss from striking would exceed the gains they would get from a better contract - I'm thinking the OEMs are trying to push them past that point to break them.

 

[the 18th letter]

But even if they negotiate better pay, what is the loss amount for not having worked for however long while they are on strike? (Obviously, the assumption is that they wouldn't have been able to get better jobs.) There may be a point where the income loss from striking would exceed the gains they would get from a better contract - I'm thinking the OEMs are trying to push them past that point to break them.

They’ll make up the lost wages working OT to catch up on orders and such.

 

[Sparksalot]

They’ll make up the lost wages working OT to catch up on orders and such.

The longer this goes, the less likely they can ever catch up.

 

[the 18th letter]

The longer this goes, the less likely they can ever catch up.

Do they still run 3 shifts? I’m sure they rather have demand exceed supply anyway.

 

[Sparksalot]

Do they still run 3 shifts? I’m sure they rather have demand exceed supply anyway.

I meant the strikers. At some point, they can’t physically work enough overtime to catch up.

 

[Polo08816]

I meant the strikers. At some point, they can’t physically work enough overtime to catch up.

+1.

Unless the strikers have another job/source of income during the time that they are not working, chances are their overall income for the year will be lower regardless of whether they get an increase in their hourly rate.

 

[Silverado4x4]

They’ll make up the lost wages working OT to catch up on orders and such.

The assembly line only runs so fast in order to catch up they would have to speed up the line alot for how long its been down to catch up and that's not going to happen.