Surprising Nonchalance

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WalleyeMikeIII

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I've found in the past a simple approach treating it as a procurement exercise works best. Send an e-mail to the the internet sales people at about 5-6 dealerships. In the note, explain who you are, what you want to buy (specifically), when you want to do it, and let them know that they and 5 other dealers are getting the same e-mail. Tell them you are ready to go as soon as the vehicle you want is available to be ordered. Then wait for the reply. If they don't, you know they are not interested in your business...this is good info to have, move on to the people that are intersted.
 
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I started shopping for an escalade in 2021. And besides the fact that it was extremely difficult to find one on the lot, 80% of the dealers were very arrogant. They didn't return phone calls, and wouldn't agree msrp
. I ended up buying a different car and then finally ordered the truck this year. My salesperson was pretty nonchalant about the whole process but at least I didn't pay a markup and it only took 5 months.
 
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I ordered my Yukon Denali with the Reserve package today. Ultimately the most straightforward option was offered by a dealer close to our place in SW Wisconsin...one of those who actually responded to me. We’ll see how this goes, but the salesman claims that they have a production allocation for a Denali, and that he expects production within four to eight weeks. That strikes me as somewhat optimistic, but we shall see.
 

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I ordered my Yukon Denali with the Reserve package today. Ultimately the most straightforward option was offered by a dealer close to our place in SW Wisconsin...one of those who actually responded to me. We’ll see how this goes, but the salesman claims that they have a production allocation for a Denali, and that he expects production within four to eight weeks. That strikes me as somewhat optimistic, but we shall see.
Once your order is submitted and accepted by the dealer you should have an TPW within a couple of weeks and then it’s a bit of a crap shoot how long shipping will take, but I wouldn’t consider 8 weeks too optimistic.

Allocations are given on Thursday, dealer has until Saturday to put in the order. Sounds like you got a dealer that had an open allocation and you inquired at the right time.

By chance did you have either Diesel or Max Tow on your order?
 

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Once your order is submitted and accepted by the dealer you should have an TPW within a couple of weeks and then it’s a bit of a crap shoot how long shipping will take, but I wouldn’t consider 8 weeks too optimistic.

Allocations are given on Thursday, dealer has until Saturday to put in the order. Sounds like you got a dealer that had an open allocation and you inquired at the right time.

By chance did you have either Diesel or Max Tow on your order?
It's not, though. I ordered a Tahoe Premier with 6.2, AAC and sunroof last November at the largest volume chevy dealer near me. It only just hit this month. I also ordered a Yukon Denali (non ultimate) with the same options as above from a large GMC dealer back in early september and I've been flip flopping between 1100 and 2030 according to GM status for the past month. No max tow and no diesel. Just a 6.2, AAC and Sunroof. I'm tired of the wait.
 

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I am guessing in 6 - 12 months the market should flip and the dealers will be scrambling to sell large trucks like the Tahoe and Yukon.

1. Moderate job loss coming.
2. Tahoes too expensive for most people.
3. Gas prices staying high.
4. Supply lines continue to open up.
5. Recession coming.
6. High interest rates not going anywhere.
7. House hold savings running out.
8. Etc.
 
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I‘ve ordered the 6.2 and the Reserve package, which includes max trailering. I’m not sure how GMC handles this issue, but my experience with other brands has been that they sometimes prioritize orders for features that are part of an overall (more expensive) package over those that are stand alone options. Good luck!
 

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I am guessing in 6 - 12 months the market should flip and the dealers will be scrambling to sell large trucks like the Tahoe and Yukon.

1. Moderate job loss coming.
2. Tahoes too expensive for most people.
3. Gas prices staying high.
4. Supply lines continue to open up.
5. Recession coming.
6. High interest rates not going anywhere.
7. House hold savings running out.
8. Etc.

They said this in 21.... Yet, here we are...2 years later... With more expensive vehicles shipped incomplete and people still begging.....
 

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They said this in 21.... Yet, here we are...2 years later... With more expensive vehicles shipped incomplete and people still begging.....
It may be two years later, but the supply chain is still in shambles. I deal with part shortages daily. Electronic components are the biggest issue.

Is part of the car shortage somewhat fabricated or used as a cover to increase the perceived “rareness” of vehicles to elicit a higher price? Maybe, but part shortages are a real issue for manufacturers everywhere. If I want a PLC or any other automation component, I’m typically looking at a 24-36 week leadtime for items that used to be in stock or just a 2 week leadtime. Don’t even get me going with the weekly or monthly price increases we are getting hit with.
 

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I started shopping for an escalade in 2021. And besides the fact that it was extremely difficult to find one on the lot, 80% of the dealers were very arrogant. They didn't return phone calls, and wouldn't agree msrp
. I ended up buying a different car and then finally ordered the truck this year. My salesperson was pretty nonchalant about the whole process but at least I didn't pay a markup and it only took 5 months.

This may be my strategy. There's more inventory and more competitive pricing on 1/2 ton pickups at the moment. I may end up purchasing either a F150 or Tundra first and then delaying the purchase of a 3 row SUV for another 2-3 years. If I already have a truck, I might be open to getting a unibody 3 row SUV like a Jeep Grand Cherokee L instead of a body on frame 3 row SUV.

I am guessing in 6 - 12 months the market should flip and the dealers will be scrambling to sell large trucks like the Tahoe and Yukon.

1. Moderate job loss coming.
2. Tahoes too expensive for most people.
3. Gas prices staying high.
4. Supply lines continue to open up.
5. Recession coming.
6. High interest rates not going anywhere.
7. House hold savings running out.
8. Etc.

They said this in 21.... Yet, here we are...2 years later... With more expensive vehicles shipped incomplete and people still begging.....

Supply is improving (there are fewer constraints) but demand is dropping even faster. It seems the wait times for vehicles have decreased substantially across the board for mainstream vehicles. Interest rates are going to continue to increase which is going to reduce demand for those that will need to finance. Household savings is indeed running out - there's really no debate there at the macro level. We will be in a much different place by the end of 2024.
 

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