Okay.
Can I ask one last thing that you've tried to explain to me before but that I still dont fully understand?
When you look at a wheel like the crescent, flush mounted and slightly concave, where the center bolt holes are so far from the hub ... how can they get them at 20mm offset?
Meaning the close to flush center wants to tuck them in further, and the bolts are only so long, so how do they manage that?
I'll draw you a picture of how it works and email it. (not joking, it'll help)