Weird gas pumping issue

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I bought my 2008 ltz about a month ago, I’m getting a pending dtc that eventually just turns into a dtc, p0455
(Large Evap system leak) gas cap is tight seal in it looks good. Now the weird part is I can’t just pump gas. Every couple dollars you hear a sputtering sound almost like air is going in then in a couple seconds It cuts the pump off. So it’s taking forever to pump. Is this a common issue? Is there a fix that’s not gonna kill my wallet? Could this be why I’m only getting around 12 mpg?
I replaced each of the evaporator system parts one at a time because of a P0449 (I think) code. Replacing the purge valve and purge solenoid cleared the code (with reset help from Advance Auto).

Then, I starting having the fuel fill problem where I could only pump a pint or less before the nozzle would shut off. It was taking forever to fill the tank. I then replaced the vapor cannister which cured that problem.

Since then I occasionally get a “tighten fuel cap” message which persists despite replacing the fuel cap. I suspect a hose leak or a leak at one of the fittings.

These are all very easy replacements that I did lying on my garage floor without even jacking it up. As mentioned above, remove your spare tire for easier access. Watch YouTube videos that show all the steps because there is a trick to separating the hose connections, which are a PITA. I ended up cutting off the nipples on the canister with an oscillating tool just to remove the hoses.

Lots of loose carbon balls, like little BB’s will likely pour from the canister and roll all over the floor. If that’s the case, the line from the canister is likely clogged with the pellets and must be cleared. I won’t say how I sucked all the pellets out of my hose because I realized how dangerous that was with the gas fumes.

The parts are fairly inexpensive. I would replace all 3 at the same time if I were to do it again. It’s easier to change the purge solenoid when the canister is off the vehicle.
 
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Yes, it's common. Assuming your gas cap is good, it is likely either:
1. A bad charcoal canister, which may also have sent charcoal pellets into the evap lines and clogged them.
2. A bad vent valve.
3. A bad purge solenoid.


I'm not throwing any codes, but having filing/venting issues. Already replaced the charcoal canister, vent valve, & purge solenoid. I can't see how the gas cap could affect this. Thoughts?

PS- the issues arose after the dealer dropped the tank to replace the pump module.
 

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I replaced each of the evaporator system parts one at a time because of a P0449 (I think) code. Replacing the purge valve and purge solenoid cleared the code (with reset help from Advance Auto).
The hose from the tank to the canister may be clogged with charcoal pellets. Mine was. It would be easier to find a way to suck them from the Canister end than to drop the tank and blow them out from the other end. It shouldn’t be too difficult to disconnect the hose at the canister and see if it is clogged.

Then, I starting having the fuel fill problem where I could only pump a pint or less before the nozzle would shut off. It was taking forever to fill the tank. I then replaced the vapor cannister which cured that problem.

Since then I occasionally get a “tighten fuel cap” message which persists despite replacing the fuel cap. I suspect a hose leak
 

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I'm not throwing any codes, but having filing/venting issues. Already replaced the charcoal canister, vent valve, & purge solenoid. I can't see how the gas cap could affect this. Thoughts?

PS- the issues arose after the dealer dropped the tank to replace the pump module.

Hmmmm. There is one line that goes OVER the frame that gets pinched if it's not put back properly....seen this a few times. Maybe have a peek down there with a mirror to see above the tank.
 

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Hmmmm. There is one line that goes OVER the frame that gets pinched if it's not put back properly....seen this a few times. Maybe have a peek down there with a mirror to see above the tank.
Yes, this is on my list of things to do. I saw another member that had that hose mistakenly routed under the frame & caused this same issue. He recommended pulling the wheel & plastic from the wheel well for access. I will update once I have time to do it.
 

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Hmmmm. There is one line that goes OVER the frame that gets pinched if it's not put back properly....seen this a few times. Maybe have a peek down there with a mirror to see above the tank.

BINGO.... Anyone know if I can fix this easily on my own of should I bring it back to the dummies?
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BINGO.... Anyone know if I can fix this easily on my own of should I bring it back to the dummies?
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You will have to drop the tank, disconnect the line, fish it back OVER the frame, reconnect, and put the tank back. I'd make the idiots do it. Tell them to replace the line, too, seeing as they have ruined its integrity.
 

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