2021 PPV Front Brakes on 2013 Escalade ESV, and rear brake overhaul

[skpyle]

Hey Seth, Hope you've been able to clear up the spacing issue. I'm curious to know how your project is coming along as i'm getting ready to start my upgrade this weekend. Hopefully I don't have the spacing issues as i'm running aftermarket 24 inch rims.

I lived with the spacing issue by installing 15mm hubcentric spacers and longer lug studs. I have been daily driving my Escalade since then with no issues.
It was not necessarily the diameter of the rim, but the offset of the rim. The back of my wheel spokes hit the outside of the calipers.

Good Luck!

NOTE: this is with the Brembos spec'd out for the 2022 Tahoe PPV. If you use the Brembos listed a couple of posts above, you probably won't have fitment issues.

 

[n8in8or]

Hi Seth, excellent thread on this brake conversion. I found this because I am currently installing the PPV brakes on my 13 Escalade ESV Platinum. I was led to believe on the Facebook forum that these would as a direct bolt-on.....including the wheels, which of course is not true. It was very helpful reading what you had found for the F350 lugs - it saved me time searching for those myself. My spacers should arrive today and I will be able to bed the pads after bleeding the brakes.

To pay it forward, I thought I'd share the washers I used to space my calipers away from the knuckle, in the hopes it helps someone else in the future. I already had these in stock from another project. I stacked 2 each of these and it got me within about .020" of being perfectly centered, like you. The beauty of these is they are the correct OD so you don't have to grind away any of the knuckle and they are also the right ID so you don't have to drill them out. Here's the link to McMaster-Carr for them: https://www.mcmaster.com/98017A215/

Thanks again for posting such a helpful thread!

 

[skpyle]

Hi Seth, excellent thread on this brake conversion. I found this because I am currently installing the PPV brakes on my 13 Escalade ESV Platinum. I was led to believe on the Facebook forum that these would as a direct bolt-on.....including the wheels, which of course is not true. It was very helpful reading what you had found for the F350 lugs - it saved me time searching for those myself. My spacers should arrive today and I will be able to bed the pads after bleeding the brakes.

To pay it forward, I thought I'd share the washers I used to space my calipers away from the knuckle, in the hopes it helps someone else in the future. I already had these in stock from another project. I stacked 2 each of these and it got me within about .020" of being perfectly centered, like you. The beauty of these is they are the correct OD so you don't have to grind away any of the knuckle and they are also the right ID so you don't have to drill them out. Here's the link to McMaster-Carr for them: https://www.mcmaster.com/98017A215/

Thanks again for posting such a helpful thread!

Outstanding!
Thanks for the link.

 

[ivin74]

Hey, stumbled onto your thread as I’m looking for a rear big brake kit now for my brothers 18. I wanted to share I just installed his front “GM performance setup” I got via piecing together front rockauto sneakily.

2015-2020 Escalade 6 Piston Brembo Kit

Six Piston Red Brembo Caliper upgrade for the Cadillac Escalade

404parts.com

This is the $2500 kit I got for <$1400 via rockauto from piecing it together. Everything was bolt on and no modifications needed (clearing his stock 22’). Took less then hour an half to install and it stops HARD now!

2 calipers #1722891 (DR flip bleeder/plugs)
2 Rotors #60447079
Power stop pads #z361910
Need 2 - m10x1.0 banjos (I had some from old caliper off my vette I did a wilwood setup on) should be Dorman 14100

What is the diameter of those rotors??

 

[skpyle]

What is the diameter of those rotors??

Rotors in that kit list as 16.1" (410mm) diameter.
My rotors are 16.14" diameter.

 

[n8in8or]

I got it on the road last night, and everything is smooth and quiet. I've only driven it enough to do the bedding procedure, but nothing else, so I can't comment on performance yet.

BUT, before I got it on the road, I decided to test fit my winter wheels/tires to see if they fit. They are some aftermarket 20s and they are nowhere close to fitting even with the 15mm spacers. They actually crash at the rim because they taper down the closer they get to the face of the wheel. So now I get to search for some new wheels. I'm hoping to find a set of 20s that will fit so I don't have to also get new tires. This brake upgrade gets more and more expensive...... If you don't mind, I'll report back with what I find for wheels to add to the knowledge in this thread.

 

[the highlander]

using these, how is the vibration when braking after a year?

 

[skpyle]

using these, how is the vibration when braking after a year?

Absolutely zero. Brakes are smooth and powerful.

 

[skpyle]

Uh-oh…


I received this E-mail last week. Lovely. Especially since my Escalade is my daily driver.

I immediately ordered new GM Genuine brake hose assemblies.
Today, I was able to install them.




GM Genuine 84331227 left and 84331228 right front brake hose assemblies. These are correct for my 2013 Escalade ESV.




New hose assemblies include new banjo bolts and copper crush washers. SWEET!
If you remember, I slightly shortened the new banjo bolts to better fit the PowerStop hoses. (However…note the thread pitch on the new banjo bolts.)





New hoses also include line end brackets and clips.

 

[skpyle]

I was able to remove the PowerStop hoses and install the new GM Genuine hoses without much trouble. I had to swap over the ball studs for the front suspension ride height sensors.

Did have a problem attaching the new hoses to the calipers. The banjo bolts only threaded in one turn, then bound up. Turns out the new banjo bolts included with the new hoses are coarse thread. Which is a little concerning, as the stock calipers and the Brembo calipers use fine thread banjo bolts.
For lack of any other option, I reused the slightly shortened fine thread banjo bolts I installed with the PowerStop hoses. They torqued down to 31 lbs/ft no problem.





Removed PowerStop hoses. Will submit the photos for reimbursement.


Since I had ordered the full kit of 6 new PowerStop hoses, I also ordered new GM Genuine brake hoses for the rear.

I am going to rebuild the rear brakes at the annual servicing later in October.





New GM Genuine brake hoses for calipers and to the axle.