2023 orders open?

[Chad G 1979]

Im hoping for that, as well as available colors for wife to see.

 

[bunky319]

So I just talked to two different GMC dealers, and these are the guys who actually place the orders. They told me that pricing was announced today but orders cannot be submitted until tomorrow. What they told me was MSRP stayed the same from 2022 but they are now requiring a 3-year OnStar connectivity package which can not be removed. On the SLT it was $1500 option! I believe on the Denali it is only around $900. So I guess for me, the 2023 is $1500 more than it was last year.

Also if you go to Build and Price, it appears that it now reflects these new prices even though they only say 2022.

I assume things are still fluid but thought I'd share what I heard.

 

[Toasty]

So I just talked to two different GMC dealers, and these are the guys who actually place the orders. They told me that pricing was announced today but orders cannot be submitted until tomorrow. What they told me was MSRP stayed the same from 2022 but they are now requiring a 3-year OnStar connectivity package which can not be removed. On the SLT it was $1500 option! I believe on the Denali it is only around $900. So I guess for me, the 2023 is $1500 more than it was last year.

Also if you go to Build and Price, it appears that it now reflects these new prices even though they only say 2022.

I assume things are still fluid but thought I'd share what I heard.

pretty sure the 3 yr onstar was included in the denali in 22 anyway

 

[Cop35758]

pretty sure the 3 yr onstar was included in the denali in 22 anyway

You are correct. 3 yr OnStar was standard on AT4 and Denali for 2022.

 

[bunky319]

pretty sure the 3 yr onstar was included in the denali in 22 anyway

Good to know...That probably explains the difference in the option price when the dealer brought up the Denali model vs the SLT model ($900? vs $1500). But still a little confusing on what exactly is included in that "option". Is it additional functionality? And what did they do to the overall price of the Denali? Did that also go up $1500 or a different amount? Since I haven't been pricing out Denali's maybe someone else can comment on that.

 

[xycrazy]

That‘s a way to hide another price increase without telling the customer

 

[bunky319]

Maybe this helps explain things from the 2023 order guides..

For the SLE and SLT model you have to order R9M "3 years of OnStar & Connected Services Plan"

Retail and Sold (TRE/SRE) orders will be forced to include option (R9M) 3 years of OnStar & Connected Services Plan. Eligible vehicles receive 3-years of the OnStar and Connected Services Premium Plan, including the Connected Vehicle Plan and the OnStar Safety & Security Plan.

For the AT4 and up you have to order R9M "3 years of OnStar Safety and Security"

Retail and Sold (TRE/SRE) orders will be forced to include option (R9M) 3 years of OnStar Safety and Security.

So it appears that the SLE/SLT have to pay more because they don't have the package "3 years of GMC Connected Services" that comes standard on the AT4 and up.

Still kind of a crappy way to do it...if you want to raise the MSRP by $1500, just raise it and say those things are included IMHO.

 

[rmsnickers]

For the Tahoes, I see slightly increased pricing for my build based on what it was last week. I don't see it on the website but the dealer built my 2023 and sent over the details. Things like roof rack increased in price from 495 to 575 but overall, my z71 build went up by $155 total.

 

[Capsaicin]

Is that including destination as well? There was a recent $100 increase on destination.

 

[StephenPT]

Still kind of a crappy way to do it...if you want to raise the MSRP by $1500, just raise it and say those things are included IMHO.

Exactly this. Raise the MSRP and give me 3 years of "free" OnStar. In the end it's the same thing, but it's the optics of forcing a "data plan" on me when I wouldn't have bought it otherwise. I absolutely loathe software subscription fees and it seems like GM is trying to get people forced into using OnStar so that when the 3 years is up, they are ingrained in using it and keep the subscription going.