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after terrorizing the neighbors by unhooking the exhaust it proved to be both cats plugged big time. After a a morning in the exhaust shop its back to running like a champ.
Thanks to all those with their advise.
Good to know, doesn't sound too awful bad to get it back in shape400 parts and labor. since they were welded in I didnt attempt it. Didnt want to try to cut out and piece it back together.
Why did you have plugged cats?
fuel trims will tell...
Yep. Now that you've spent the money on the cats it's time to find out what caused them to deteriorate. Sounds like you have a vacuum leak and the PCM is compensating by adding fuel (high fuel trims) to get the a/f ratio to stoichiometric ratio (14.7 parts air to 1 part fuel). Excessively high fuel trims will kill your new cats in no time flat especially with them being weld-in universals. Find the root of the problem and fix that too. You're not done yet.