Brakes binding at low speed?

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Green monster

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Ok I don't know what the problem is but I think my brakes are binding. I was driving home tonight and stopping for a red light so i press on the brakes and the Hoe starts slowing down. Than I hear a bang and it felt like i had no brakes for a second, than everything is fine. It only did it once but pedal pressure feels soft now. The brake pedal doesn't go to the floor so I don't think it's a leak or a master cylinder. I hear no grinding, no vibration and the only thing that looks weird is the rear on my truck looks sagging on the driver side. Maybe a rear drum is seized? I know it's not much to go on but any advise would be great.
 

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A visual inspection of the brakes would suffice for that left side. You may have overreached a parts individual travel from to much wear and it might have fallen out of place jamming something up. However if the sagging was caused by you driving while it while binding then that should go away while in neutral without pressing the brake. You could have also broken a suspension part which is causing interference with a brake line.

Perhaps it was always sagging a little but becomes more apparent from recent interest in it.

One other possibility is that you may have suffered a one-time event of the TSB below.

Bulletin No.: 02-05-25-006B

Date: January 05, 2006

TECHNICAL
Subject:
Antilock Brake (ABS) Activation At Low Speeds (Clean Wheel Speed Sensor Mounting Surface)

Models:
1999-2000 Cadillac Escalade
1995-1999 Chevrolet Silverado (Old Style)
1995-2000 Chevrolet Suburban, Tahoe (Old Style)
1995-2003 Chevrolet Astro Van, Blazer, S10
1995-1999 GMC Sierra (Old Style)
1995-2000 GMC Yukon, Yukon XL (Old Style)
1995-2001 GMC Envoy, Jimmy
1995-2003 GMC Safari Van, Sonoma
1995-2001 Oldsmobile Bravada

Supercede:

This bulletin is being revised to update the correction and warranty information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 02-05-25-006A (Section 05 - Brakes).

Condition

Some customers may comment on ABS activation at low speeds, usually below 8 km/h (5 mph). Upon investigation, the technician will find no DTCs set.

Cause

The cause of this condition may be an increased air gap between the wheel speed sensor and the hub reluctor ring due to rust and debris built up on the sensor mounting surface.

Correction

Measure AC voltage and clean wheel speed sensor mounting surfaces.
1. Raise the vehicle on a hoist.

2. Disconnect both the front wheel speed sensor harness connectors.

3. Place a DVM across the terminals of each sensor connector.

4. Rotate the wheel with hand speed and measure the ACmV's. The reading should be at least 350 ACmV's.

5. If the reading is between 200 and 350 ACmV's, remove the wheel, caliper and rotor in order to gain access to the speed sensor.

6. Remove the wheel speed sensor and plug the hole to prevent debris from falling into the hub during service.

7. Clean the wheel speed sensor mounting surface using a wire brush, sand paper, emery cloth, ScotchBrite(TM) or other suitable material. Be sure to thoroughly clean the wheel speed sensor surface. There should be no rust or corrosion.

8. Check the sensor head to determine if it has been warped/distorted due to the corrosion build up or other causes. Check the mounting surface on the sensor head for flatness by placing it on the edge of a metal machinists scale or other suitable straight edge to measure the flatness. Check the sensor for flatness in multiple (minimum 3) positions/directions. If the sensor head is distorted, replace the sensor.

9. Apply (spray) two thin coats of the specified rust penetrating lubricant (corrosion inhibitor) to the complete sensor mounting surface on the bearing hub. Allow to dry for 3-5 minutes between coats. Use ONLY Rust Penetrating Lubricant, P/N 89022217 (Canadian P/N 89022218).

10. When the corrosion inhibitor is dry to the touch (about 10 minutes), apply a thin layer of bearing grease to the hub surface and sensor 0-ring prior to sensor installation. Use ONLY Wheel Bearing Lubricant, P/N 01051344 (Canadian P/N 993037).

11. Install either the original sensor or a new one in the hub and secure the sensor. Ensure that the sensor is seated flush against the hub.

12. Install the rotor, the caliper and the wheel.

13. Place the DVM across the sensor terminals and recheck the voltage while rotating the wheel by hand. The voltage should now read at least 350 ACmV's.
 
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Well I took my Hoe to my friends shop today, the brake shoes had sepperated. So I replaced the rear brakes. We also found out the the Master cylinder is leaking and replaced that too. Than we decided to flush the brake fluid ( we were bored), while bleeding the brakes a line decides to snap and new brake lines were installed. I guess from running the new brake line we disturbed a fuel line and now that's leaking. Now the fun begins, to replace the fuel line I gotta drop the gas tank( and it's full). Do you think I should replace the fuel pump since I gotta drop the tank? My friend is telling me to do it since the tank will be out but the pump runs fine still. Sorry had to vent a little!!!
 

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I hear being in Canada does that. With that said at your vehicles age and condition yes replace your pump/ sender module using the new required connector and go with an ACDelco unit. Just don't blow your self up or better yet transfer that fuel temporarily. you can get them for under $170 at amazon.
 

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A visual inspection of the brakes would suffice for that left side. You may have overreached a parts individual travel from to much wear and it might have fallen out of place jamming something up. However if the sagging was caused by you driving while it while binding then that should go away while in neutral without pressing the brake. You could have also broken a suspension part which is causing interference with a brake line.

Perhaps it was always sagging a little but becomes more apparent from recent interest in it.

One other possibility is that you may have suffered a one-time event of the TSB below.

Bulletin No.: 02-05-25-006B

Date: January 05, 2006

TECHNICAL
Subject:
Antilock Brake (ABS) Activation At Low Speeds (Clean Wheel Speed Sensor Mounting Surface)

Models:
1999-2000 Cadillac Escalade
1995-1999 Chevrolet Silverado (Old Style)
1995-2000 Chevrolet Suburban, Tahoe (Old Style)
1995-2003 Chevrolet Astro Van, Blazer, S10
1995-1999 GMC Sierra (Old Style)
1995-2000 GMC Yukon, Yukon XL (Old Style)
1995-2001 GMC Envoy, Jimmy
1995-2003 GMC Safari Van, Sonoma
1995-2001 Oldsmobile Bravada

Supercede:

This bulletin is being revised to update the correction and warranty information. Please discard Corporate Bulletin Number 02-05-25-006A (Section 05 - Brakes).

Condition

Some customers may comment on ABS activation at low speeds, usually below 8 km/h (5 mph). Upon investigation, the technician will find no DTCs set.

Cause

The cause of this condition may be an increased air gap between the wheel speed sensor and the hub reluctor ring due to rust and debris built up on the sensor mounting surface.

Correction

Measure AC voltage and clean wheel speed sensor mounting surfaces.
1. Raise the vehicle on a hoist.

2. Disconnect both the front wheel speed sensor harness connectors.

3. Place a DVM across the terminals of each sensor connector.

4. Rotate the wheel with hand speed and measure the ACmV's. The reading should be at least 350 ACmV's.

5. If the reading is between 200 and 350 ACmV's, remove the wheel, caliper and rotor in order to gain access to the speed sensor.

6. Remove the wheel speed sensor and plug the hole to prevent debris from falling into the hub during service.

7. Clean the wheel speed sensor mounting surface using a wire brush, sand paper, emery cloth, ScotchBrite(TM) or other suitable material. Be sure to thoroughly clean the wheel speed sensor surface. There should be no rust or corrosion.

8. Check the sensor head to determine if it has been warped/distorted due to the corrosion build up or other causes. Check the mounting surface on the sensor head for flatness by placing it on the edge of a metal machinists scale or other suitable straight edge to measure the flatness. Check the sensor for flatness in multiple (minimum 3) positions/directions. If the sensor head is distorted, replace the sensor.

9. Apply (spray) two thin coats of the specified rust penetrating lubricant (corrosion inhibitor) to the complete sensor mounting surface on the bearing hub. Allow to dry for 3-5 minutes between coats. Use ONLY Rust Penetrating Lubricant, P/N 89022217 (Canadian P/N 89022218).

10. When the corrosion inhibitor is dry to the touch (about 10 minutes), apply a thin layer of bearing grease to the hub surface and sensor 0-ring prior to sensor installation. Use ONLY Wheel Bearing Lubricant, P/N 01051344 (Canadian P/N 993037).

11. Install either the original sensor or a new one in the hub and secure the sensor. Ensure that the sensor is seated flush against the hub.

12. Install the rotor, the caliper and the wheel.

13. Place the DVM across the sensor terminals and recheck the voltage while rotating the wheel by hand. The voltage should now read at least 350 ACmV's.

can you still have this TSB performed at a dealer?
 

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The dealer would refer to it for help to resolve it but would charge you now for it because your vehicle is out of warranty.
 
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Well my Hoe is all fixed!!! New brakes, master cylinder, fuel pump(took your advise and replaced it since tank was down) fuel filter, brake and fuel lines. All I can say is what a difference. It's feels like it has way more power and even some fuel economy. :)
 

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